Some perspective here from someone who is actually a fag irl.
It creates a dissonance for which there is no cure nor remedy
Nobody I know wants "a cure" or a remedy for being a fag, far from it actually. Why the fuck would you want to forfeit the ability to bypass women entirely in 2021? Do you realize how headache free it is to hook up and be together as men? If you lived in some shithole that kills gays by law then I'd understand wanting to be "cured", but no gay living in a civilized western society wants this, this is comically stupid. What you are describing sounds more like a trans person, who is quite literally "fighting against their own biology".
The whole "we're depressed because of homophobic straight, white male Christians" was as old and phony a lie as all the rest of their propaganda.
Of course it is a lie, because there are many "white male christians" that are openly gay and right wing, I know many of them.
Only the retarded woke types actually claim what you're saying. These are the ones who, coincidentally, discriminate other gays when they so much as move an inch from the official "queer theory" garbage, meaning if you're a "normative" gay or just not a brain damaged far leftist who dares to vote right wing or question whatever crazy fotm narrative the LGBT religion has come up with for this month they ostracize you and call you a traitor, bigot, trumptard etc.
This was never about "representing" degeneracy for the sake of gays, it was promoting degeneracy to seduce and groom the next generation into the lifestyle.
It WAS, the movement was created by gay men that just wanted the right to fuck whoever they wanted and that's it. When it went from GLB to LGBT is when it stopped being a legitimate movement for equal rights and began turning into the segregating propaganda machine that is today.
Gay men have been pushed to the bottom of the LGBTWTKZC circus for years and will soon be the next "terfs" and be removed entirely. This is the inevitable outcome of women taking over and then including trans loons, everyone with half a brain could see that they would eventually take over and burn it all down with their insanity. Having your dick or tits chopped off because you believe you are trapped in the wrong body has absolutely nothing to do with being attracted to your own sex. It's crazy to put these two together and will inevitably lead to a clash between both, which is exactly what's happening now.
This was always their end-game: hetero-conversion.
Stop being so naive, they don't give a fuck about heteros nor gays, they only want to keep people fighting over petty shit. Their endgame is erasing all the "normalization" of gays lesbians and bisexuals over the past decades in the west. It's just another way of dividing people.
You think it's a coincidence that they've been pushing the whole trans craziness front and center of the LGBT these last years? Stop and try to think why. We reached a point in society where people mostly didn't care who you slept with and viewed it as something that doesn't define who you are. That is the complete opposite of what the current LGBT mafia wants. Nowadays it's "being X is what defines literally everything about me, kids need to be put on hormone blockers, heteros bad", which is the complete opposite of "we just want to not be defined by our sexual preferences", the entire reason the movement was even created.
It's the same thing with the racial shit, it went from MLK's "the color of the skin doesn't define us" to BLM's "being Black is literally everything, whites bad".
I don't get how people are so outright dumb as to not see the blatant shift happening in real time.
Why the fuck would you want to forfeit the ability to bypass women entirely in 2021? Do you realize how headache free it is to hook up and be together as men?
There's a lot in your comment I disagree with, but this made me laugh out loud, because you do make a really good point here. Kudos.
Of course it is a lie, because there are many "white male christians" that are openly gay and right wing, I know many of them.
Okay, this got me to laugh out loud again, too, because I started thinking about the Right-wing fundamentalists hooking up with Nancy Boys in truck stops to share a little oral "salvation" to the unwashed masses while preaching how awful it is, only to get caught out and smeared in the media for their extracurricular physical "studies".
It WAS, the movement was created by gay men that just wanted the right to fuck whoever they wanted and that's it. When it went from GLB to LGBT is when it stopped being a legitimate movement for equal rights and began turning into the segregating propaganda machine that is today.
No, no, no, no, no. This is where you're clearly wrong here. Go back and re-read what really got the whole LGBT propaganda movement started, it was formulated as a subversive psyop called "The Gay Agenda" (literally) by Dr. Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen.
The whole "We just want to screw!" mantra was and still is bullcrap. Gay men were screwing plenty throughout the 70s and no one cared. You don't need rights, promotion, propaganda, marketing, or an entire sociopolitical swell to screw someone in private. It should have been private and stayed private.
The whole point of making it public was to subvert the conscious perception of the homosexual lifestyle to make it seem "normal" and "okay" among the general population, which is exactly what Dr. Kirk and Madsen wanted to achieve.
Stop being so naive, they don't give a fuck about heteros nor gays, they only want to keep people fighting over petty shit. Their endgame is erasing all the "normalization" of gays lesbians and bisexuals over the past decades in the west. It's just another way of dividing people.
Just the opposite, it's to normalize it to the point where it's the standard. It's why you have articles now calling heterosexuality a "compulsory" social construct:
And it has everything to do with hetero-conversion, even as admitted to by the people that are being inundated with the Rainbow Reich propaganda. Heck they are even ADMITTING to being converted:
The article literally reaffirms everything I've mentioned in past posts. She admits it herself, the algorithm kept feeding her lesbian content, she eventually gave in and tried it out after Big Tech peer pressure. That is literally propaganda used for hetero-conversion, and she isn't the only one.
There are A LOT of stories like that one where confused teens/20-somethings get roped in and start experimenting due to social pressure.
Nowadays it's "being X is what defines literally everything about me, kids need to be put on hormone blockers, heteros bad", which is the complete opposite of "we just want to not be defined by our sexual preferences", the entire reason the movement was even created.
You're right that the trans movement is all about breaching access to little kids. Child transgenderism is literally the gateway to legalizing pedophilia, which is the real end goal for that endeavor.
However, you're wrong about the intentions of the movement. It was always designed as an infiltration mechanic to proselytize socially degenerative behaviour.
As I mentioned, if it was really all about just screwing people in private, they could have done it in private and left the rest of the general public alone, but that was never the goal. It was never about what they did in private, else it would have stayed private.
Destabilizing American population rates + breaching politics to eventually legalize pedophilia.
They've been playing the looooong game for a long time (ever since the faux dissolution of NAMBLA), attacking the target from multiple vectors and for multiple purposes.
It's a disruption mechanic to chip away at the foundational bedrocks of society. What's one of the ways a society stays healthy and strong? A moral/stable nuclear family unit.
So fewer and fewer younger people are identifying as straight. How do you think that's going to affect the already sky-high divorce rates that basically leave men emotionally and financially crippled? If you don't know how that racket operates, a female divorce lawyer actually lays out the stats how fatherless homes has ruined many a child:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlSwsE22nX0
But circling back to the whole alphabet soup crisis, they're closer then they've ever been to legalizing pedophilia. This is going to come through the whole child trans movement, which is why they've been pushing so much for the trans angle lately, and promoting it so heavily in schools.
So if you follow the basic logic of everything that the alphabet mafia is doing it goes something like this:
Disrupted family unit -> easily impressionable child -> globohomo propaganda in media/school -> child groomed to join alphabet soup spectrum -> pedo bait.
The only thing they need to do now (and I expect this within the next decade or so) is to start legalizing a way for children to consent if they're under 18.
Same guy diff account for one last reply because I'm just a lurker.
You might be right that the political movement was corrupted from the start, but there was a legitimate reason to push for equal rights that just didn't exist (like same sex marriage). Now I'm of the opinion that once such rights have been acquired, political movements outlive their usefulness and are just prone to corruption and become puppets for the political powers or corpos that take over, so yes, the LGBT movement is perverted trash that is only good for promoting hate, segregation and outright vile insanity like destroying children's bodies. If you think you despise them, imagine what you would feel if these imbeciles spoke for you and considered you "their own" because you happen to like penis/vagina.
As for the endgame being "hetero conversion" I still don't agree. If trying to erase straight people (this is a conceptually silly idea that literally can't biologically happen) is a way to create tension and make people fight, then yes, because that's what I believe is the true endgame. I suppose it could be one more of their tactics to radicalize the discourse to force a backlash from normies who wouldn't care otherwise, like the trans kids or the non-binary thing.
Since you seem sincere, let me ask you a question. Have you seen any long term monogamous gay relationship? As in, more than 5 years together? I've read there's no monogamy among male gays, and that their relationships always break down.
Forgot the pass of that throwaway but you seem to have a genuine interest so I'll tell you and anybody who cares how things are from my experience.
There is monogamy but people are generally more open to hook up with others even if they're in a relationship, the key point being that they all know, the adultery and jealousy stigma just isn't really there when it's consensual. I know of a couple that occasionally meet some other guy if they feel like and they've been together for close to 4 years and are now living together.
Imagine if your group of friends all liked dick. Most of you would've probably fucked at some point and nobody would care, but you would still have a preference for one of them and would do more plans together and such because you have a higher affinity or just like to be with him, dicks involved or not. Despite the yassss screeching, straight hating clown parade pushed by the media, this is how being a fag generally works in real life, just regular male friends but with the added benefit of wanking each other if they want.
Honestly, I think many male-female relationships would be healthier if they weren't so obsessed with the notion that sex is this holy and untouchable basis for the relationship, but that's my opinion. Anyways, back to lurking, thanks for your interest.
Some perspective here from someone who is actually a fag irl.
Nobody I know wants "a cure" or a remedy for being a fag, far from it actually. Why the fuck would you want to forfeit the ability to bypass women entirely in 2021? Do you realize how headache free it is to hook up and be together as men? If you lived in some shithole that kills gays by law then I'd understand wanting to be "cured", but no gay living in a civilized western society wants this, this is comically stupid. What you are describing sounds more like a trans person, who is quite literally "fighting against their own biology".
Of course it is a lie, because there are many "white male christians" that are openly gay and right wing, I know many of them.
Only the retarded woke types actually claim what you're saying. These are the ones who, coincidentally, discriminate other gays when they so much as move an inch from the official "queer theory" garbage, meaning if you're a "normative" gay or just not a brain damaged far leftist who dares to vote right wing or question whatever crazy fotm narrative the LGBT religion has come up with for this month they ostracize you and call you a traitor, bigot, trumptard etc.
It WAS, the movement was created by gay men that just wanted the right to fuck whoever they wanted and that's it. When it went from GLB to LGBT is when it stopped being a legitimate movement for equal rights and began turning into the segregating propaganda machine that is today.
Gay men have been pushed to the bottom of the LGBTWTKZC circus for years and will soon be the next "terfs" and be removed entirely. This is the inevitable outcome of women taking over and then including trans loons, everyone with half a brain could see that they would eventually take over and burn it all down with their insanity. Having your dick or tits chopped off because you believe you are trapped in the wrong body has absolutely nothing to do with being attracted to your own sex. It's crazy to put these two together and will inevitably lead to a clash between both, which is exactly what's happening now.
Stop being so naive, they don't give a fuck about heteros nor gays, they only want to keep people fighting over petty shit. Their endgame is erasing all the "normalization" of gays lesbians and bisexuals over the past decades in the west. It's just another way of dividing people.
You think it's a coincidence that they've been pushing the whole trans craziness front and center of the LGBT these last years? Stop and try to think why. We reached a point in society where people mostly didn't care who you slept with and viewed it as something that doesn't define who you are. That is the complete opposite of what the current LGBT mafia wants. Nowadays it's "being X is what defines literally everything about me, kids need to be put on hormone blockers, heteros bad", which is the complete opposite of "we just want to not be defined by our sexual preferences", the entire reason the movement was even created.
It's the same thing with the racial shit, it went from MLK's "the color of the skin doesn't define us" to BLM's "being Black is literally everything, whites bad".
I don't get how people are so outright dumb as to not see the blatant shift happening in real time.
There's a lot in your comment I disagree with, but this made me laugh out loud, because you do make a really good point here. Kudos.
Okay, this got me to laugh out loud again, too, because I started thinking about the Right-wing fundamentalists hooking up with Nancy Boys in truck stops to share a little oral "salvation" to the unwashed masses while preaching how awful it is, only to get caught out and smeared in the media for their extracurricular physical "studies".
No, no, no, no, no. This is where you're clearly wrong here. Go back and re-read what really got the whole LGBT propaganda movement started, it was formulated as a subversive psyop called "The Gay Agenda" (literally) by Dr. Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen.
It's discussed on page 28 here: https://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/08a/born_gay_hoax/TheBornGayHoax.pdf
The whole "We just want to screw!" mantra was and still is bullcrap. Gay men were screwing plenty throughout the 70s and no one cared. You don't need rights, promotion, propaganda, marketing, or an entire sociopolitical swell to screw someone in private. It should have been private and stayed private.
The whole point of making it public was to subvert the conscious perception of the homosexual lifestyle to make it seem "normal" and "okay" among the general population, which is exactly what Dr. Kirk and Madsen wanted to achieve.
Just the opposite, it's to normalize it to the point where it's the standard. It's why you have articles now calling heterosexuality a "compulsory" social construct:
https://theconversation.com/feminisms-legacy-sees-college-women-embracing-more-diverse-sexuality-159023
https://www.chicagotribune.com/redeye/ct-redeye-ask-anna-am-i-lesbian-or-bisexual-questioning-sexuality-0606-story.html
https://www.epw.in/journal/2019/9/commentary/compulsory-heterosexuality-gender-and.html
It's why you have the media repeatedly trying to goad men and women to experiment across the alphabet soup spectrum:
https://www.out.com/lifestyle/2018/10/17/10-reasons-every-gay-man-should-try-throuple-once
https://www.esquire.com/uk/life/sex-relationships/news/a11943/a-guide-to-pegging/
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/more-women-experimenting-bisexuality-flna1c9440713
And it has everything to do with hetero-conversion, even as admitted to by the people that are being inundated with the Rainbow Reich propaganda. Heck they are even ADMITTING to being converted:
https://www.thecut.com/2021/08/tiktok-helped-me-come-out-gay-lesbian.html
The article literally reaffirms everything I've mentioned in past posts. She admits it herself, the algorithm kept feeding her lesbian content, she eventually gave in and tried it out after Big Tech peer pressure. That is literally propaganda used for hetero-conversion, and she isn't the only one.
There are A LOT of stories like that one where confused teens/20-somethings get roped in and start experimenting due to social pressure.
You're right that the trans movement is all about breaching access to little kids. Child transgenderism is literally the gateway to legalizing pedophilia, which is the real end goal for that endeavor.
However, you're wrong about the intentions of the movement. It was always designed as an infiltration mechanic to proselytize socially degenerative behaviour.
As I mentioned, if it was really all about just screwing people in private, they could have done it in private and left the rest of the general public alone, but that was never the goal. It was never about what they did in private, else it would have stayed private.
Why? What's the endgame?
Destabilizing American population rates + breaching politics to eventually legalize pedophilia.
They've been playing the looooong game for a long time (ever since the faux dissolution of NAMBLA), attacking the target from multiple vectors and for multiple purposes.
It's a disruption mechanic to chip away at the foundational bedrocks of society. What's one of the ways a society stays healthy and strong? A moral/stable nuclear family unit.
If you can disrupt the nuclear family, pit the husband against wife, the child against parents, you end up disrupting the next generation, which is exactly what we're seeing come to fruition with Gen Z. Look at these stats here: https://www.teenvogue.com/story/survey-says-young-people-dont-identify-as-straight
So fewer and fewer younger people are identifying as straight. How do you think that's going to affect the already sky-high divorce rates that basically leave men emotionally and financially crippled? If you don't know how that racket operates, a female divorce lawyer actually lays out the stats how fatherless homes has ruined many a child: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlSwsE22nX0
There are also plenty of other stats to showcase how fatherless homes has affected everything from increased drug use to promiscuity: https://owlcation.com/social-sciences/Psychological-Effects-On-Men-Growing-Up-Without-A-Father
But circling back to the whole alphabet soup crisis, they're closer then they've ever been to legalizing pedophilia. This is going to come through the whole child trans movement, which is why they've been pushing so much for the trans angle lately, and promoting it so heavily in schools.
So if you follow the basic logic of everything that the alphabet mafia is doing it goes something like this:
The only thing they need to do now (and I expect this within the next decade or so) is to start legalizing a way for children to consent if they're under 18.
And before you say "That's preposterous", pretty boy Newsom has already laid the groundwork legally in Lucifer's bachelor pad, better known as California: https://www.liberty.edu/champion/2020/10/opinion-new-california-law-protecting-pedophilia-is-vile/
Same guy diff account for one last reply because I'm just a lurker.
You might be right that the political movement was corrupted from the start, but there was a legitimate reason to push for equal rights that just didn't exist (like same sex marriage). Now I'm of the opinion that once such rights have been acquired, political movements outlive their usefulness and are just prone to corruption and become puppets for the political powers or corpos that take over, so yes, the LGBT movement is perverted trash that is only good for promoting hate, segregation and outright vile insanity like destroying children's bodies. If you think you despise them, imagine what you would feel if these imbeciles spoke for you and considered you "their own" because you happen to like penis/vagina.
As for the endgame being "hetero conversion" I still don't agree. If trying to erase straight people (this is a conceptually silly idea that literally can't biologically happen) is a way to create tension and make people fight, then yes, because that's what I believe is the true endgame. I suppose it could be one more of their tactics to radicalize the discourse to force a backlash from normies who wouldn't care otherwise, like the trans kids or the non-binary thing.
Interesting how they they don't break this down by gender. I wonder if it's mostly women identifying as bi / lesbian.
Since you seem sincere, let me ask you a question. Have you seen any long term monogamous gay relationship? As in, more than 5 years together? I've read there's no monogamy among male gays, and that their relationships always break down.
Forgot the pass of that throwaway but you seem to have a genuine interest so I'll tell you and anybody who cares how things are from my experience.
There is monogamy but people are generally more open to hook up with others even if they're in a relationship, the key point being that they all know, the adultery and jealousy stigma just isn't really there when it's consensual. I know of a couple that occasionally meet some other guy if they feel like and they've been together for close to 4 years and are now living together.
Imagine if your group of friends all liked dick. Most of you would've probably fucked at some point and nobody would care, but you would still have a preference for one of them and would do more plans together and such because you have a higher affinity or just like to be with him, dicks involved or not. Despite the yassss screeching, straight hating clown parade pushed by the media, this is how being a fag generally works in real life, just regular male friends but with the added benefit of wanking each other if they want.
Honestly, I think many male-female relationships would be healthier if they weren't so obsessed with the notion that sex is this holy and untouchable basis for the relationship, but that's my opinion. Anyways, back to lurking, thanks for your interest.
Do you see actual love?