This is such demoralisation bullshit, and you know it. "Just put up with it". "It'll all work out eventually!" "Your job is the most important thing!"
Fuck off. So you don't want to 'risk it'..? Good for you, and good for OP, but fuck off if you think your moral righteousness helps the rest of us, who have far more to lose from never being able to leave our fucking states again.
So no. You can join the other righteous "law abiding" arseholes, but you don';t get to tell the rest of what we should or should not do. Your reasoning is fucking bullshit, anyway. Stop being a "good little citizen", and recognize that this IS NOT GOING AWAY, just because you "obey the law". Goddamn.
I saw your demoralization post and thought about it more. I couldn't help myself and looked at his post history here. Look at the way this account formats it's posts. Can't even say "fuck" with out ***.
Yep, I'm with you there, and I find these "muh morals, obey the law, stooopid" posts to be pretty fucking annoying, and fairly disingenuous, even on this fucking site. Like seriously, you don't want to "risk it"? Good for you. But stop telling the rest of that we're "wrong" for trying to find our own way around this, and fighting back.
Seriously, I'm beginning to wonder whether some of you might just be controlled demoralisation/opposition, after all...
Everyone has their own fight and gets to choose their hill.
I won't tell people not to forge things or make a scene. I won't even tell people not to get violent.
You do you.
If one dude over the edge with a gun is somehow lucky enough to turns this all around Lexington and Concord style then who the fuck am I to discourage him?
Whatever you DO, just don't give up.
I think this is a good thought and something I really didn't think of before. I've thought about forging a card, I'd almost like to try just to see how real I can make it since it is so simple.
The problem is doing that and using it is still contributing to the problem. I've not even been the most against the not-a-vaccine. If I thought my risk from Covid was high enough that whatever benefits it provided outweighed that, I'd take it. Where I get hung up is the point of having to pass off a vaccine card (real or fake) as a permission slip to do anything is totally unacceptable. If I'm showing my papers, I'm part of the problem. Instead, places enforcing it need to be left to bleed out and die. This worked in Moscow. I don't think it will in the West because enough people will just comply and even worse too many people welcome such a policy.
Either way... Just like I said on another post. Don't forge docs.
Good luck ever finding another job with forgery on your record.
Life for all of us is a pendulum, this bullshit wont last forever.
Don't get me wrong... I think Op is right.. We need to stand our ground... But don't fuck your record up.
This is such demoralisation bullshit, and you know it. "Just put up with it". "It'll all work out eventually!" "Your job is the most important thing!"
Fuck off. So you don't want to 'risk it'..? Good for you, and good for OP, but fuck off if you think your moral righteousness helps the rest of us, who have far more to lose from never being able to leave our fucking states again.
So no. You can join the other righteous "law abiding" arseholes, but you don';t get to tell the rest of what we should or should not do. Your reasoning is fucking bullshit, anyway. Stop being a "good little citizen", and recognize that this IS NOT GOING AWAY, just because you "obey the law". Goddamn.
I saw your demoralization post and thought about it more. I couldn't help myself and looked at his post history here. Look at the way this account formats it's posts. Can't even say "fuck" with out ***.
I'm with bamboozler1, go fuck your self. Find another corner to preach on.
They'll always have the negative test loophole. It seems to be their legal shield.
Some of us don't have alternative travel means; not everyone has a car and not everyone drives.
Yep, I'm with you there, and I find these "muh morals, obey the law, stooopid" posts to be pretty fucking annoying, and fairly disingenuous, even on this fucking site. Like seriously, you don't want to "risk it"? Good for you. But stop telling the rest of that we're "wrong" for trying to find our own way around this, and fighting back.
Seriously, I'm beginning to wonder whether some of you might just be controlled demoralisation/opposition, after all...
Everyone has their own fight and gets to choose their hill. I won't tell people not to forge things or make a scene. I won't even tell people not to get violent. You do you. If one dude over the edge with a gun is somehow lucky enough to turns this all around Lexington and Concord style then who the fuck am I to discourage him? Whatever you DO, just don't give up.
Don't just not fly/train.
DO travel to Free States by car, buying gas in those states, and spending money there.
I think this is a good thought and something I really didn't think of before. I've thought about forging a card, I'd almost like to try just to see how real I can make it since it is so simple.
The problem is doing that and using it is still contributing to the problem. I've not even been the most against the not-a-vaccine. If I thought my risk from Covid was high enough that whatever benefits it provided outweighed that, I'd take it. Where I get hung up is the point of having to pass off a vaccine card (real or fake) as a permission slip to do anything is totally unacceptable. If I'm showing my papers, I'm part of the problem. Instead, places enforcing it need to be left to bleed out and die. This worked in Moscow. I don't think it will in the West because enough people will just comply and even worse too many people welcome such a policy.