Is it too early to call this Biden's Saigon?
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On a scale of 1 - 10, with Saigon being a 5 and 10 being Napoleon's Russian campaign, I'd say this is about a 7.
If this was a 7, Napoleon's campaign was at least a 200. It's a fuckup to be sure, but not a "10+ divisions completely wiped out, 5+ divisions captured" fuckup.
True I may have been a little hyperbolic.
On a scale of military fuck ups, Saigon is like a 3 or 4. This is like a 6.5 or 7. Russian invasions are like a 9.
Reason for my scale, we have better information gathering. It's not just lives lost, but also failure to plan, etc.
I was just about to say we're somewhere between invading russia in the winter and kicking adolf out of art school.