Noticed that vaccines have been brought up in quite a few comment sections, even in posts that are only tangentially related, but that there wasn't a post specifically about the intent behind the vaccines.
So anyone with theories or thoughts related to the vaccine and the push for it, this is your discussion thread.
My personal thoughts: the ultimate intent is a combination of population control, and consolidation of power, for 3 reasons:
- most developed nations, both west and east, are facing an imminent unbalance in age demographics because the baby boomers are getting to the age where they already have (or are about to) retire en masse. This will put massive pressure on government programs, with too many takers and not enough working taxpayers. So they want the old people to die before this happens.
(As an aside, this was arguably the main reason why they recently tried to push mass migration, to get more taxpayers. But we all know how that went)
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I've seen people argue (not unreasonably) along the lines of "why would they kill the most obedient ones?" Because right now, the dissidents are protected from the elite, by safety in numbers. They (we?) Can easily blend into a crowd to hide. But what happens if the elite kill the obedient, and there is no crowd left to hide in? They will much more easily be able to control people, when there are fewer people.
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people behind vaccine development/distribution like Gates and the WEF, have openly stated population reduction to be a goal of theirs for various reasons.
That's the gist of my thoughts. Any other opinions are welcome
9048 deaths, 438440 adverse effects including 26818 hospitalizations in the US according to VAERS. Previous studies concluded VAERS captures about 1-10% of what's really going on.
The problem is, the vaccine is not a disease, it's supposed to be a cure. It shouldn't be killing any people at all. In the past vaccines have been pulled after 25 deaths. 9048 are confirmed deaths and like I said, the real number is likely at least 10x higher. It's not a cure, it's genocide.
Secondly, it's killing and maiming young and healthy people who are not at risk from covid. Injecting them with an experimental drug without informing them of the risks and having them die is a crime against humanity.
What makes you think 600k people died of the virus? 600k people have been reported dying after getting the virus, does not imply 600k people have died due to the virus.
You understand this right? There is no excess mortality so there is no pandemic. If you look at 350 million people in the U.S. randomly, it's basically a statistical certainty 600k of them are going to die for one reason or another.
That many people did not die from COVID. You're spouting falsehoods. That's how many people allegedly died WITH COVID. That's a huge difference.
Also 9000 deaths is only what's been SELF-REPORTED, not what the actual statistics are. You have no clue what the actual death rates are because the FDA isn't enforcing any record keeping of the death toll.
What do you mean "huge excess of mortality"? Are you talking about mortality in general or COVID-induced mortality? Because if it's the latter the tracking from health institutions has been to rate mortality for people WITH COVID, and not people who died FROM COVID. That's why when people began actually looking at the raw numbers, they discovered that COVID has a 99.7% survival rate, even as admitted to inadvertently by the CDC.
So if it has a 99.7% survival rate, what is this "huge" excess of mortality related to?
If you're talking about death rates per capita, well of course you would see a higher toll due to the lockdowns, which have proven not to work: https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F37aa8556-a1ce-4d5a-a55d-2d05aad1c62f_1344x756.png
So you now have to account for suicides induced by the lockdown, mortality induced by crime rates increasing across police-defunded cities, as well as other lockdown related deaths (i.e., alcohol, drug use, domestic abuse, overdoses, etc., etc., etc).
According to the CDC the total death rates increased year-over-year by 15.9%: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm .
But how they account for the deaths is masked in weasel-wording.
For instance...
COVID-19 was reported as the underlying cause of death or a contributing cause of death for an estimated 377,883 (11.3%) of those deaths (91.5 deaths per 100,000).
Okay, so how many of those had a comorbidity? And how many of those people who may have been battling a secondary illness died with COVID? They don't say. And they merge together "underlying cause" and "contributing cause" together, and they provide ZERO stats on the "only cause".
So this goes back to my original point: how many people actually died strictly FROM COVID compared to people who died WITH COVID?
According to various reports last year, the CDC and some health officials were literally counting all sorts of extraneous deaths as COVID-related, even accidents, gunshot wounds: https://www.westernjournal.com/county-counted-car-crash-covid-death-finds-inflated-virus-death-toll-25-percent/
Motorcycle accidents: https://cbs12.com/news/local/man-who-died-in-motorcycle-crash-counted-as-covid-19-death-in-florida-report
And even brain injuries: https://www.globalresearch.ca/gunshot-head-parkinsons-disease-deaths-palm-beach-incorrectly-attributed-covid-19/5719528
They say that it was a third-leading cause of death for those over the age of 85, but as mentioned before, how many of those people had other illnesses or comorbidities?
But to further my point about the CDC's weasel-words, this highlights it perfectly...
""The highest age-adjusted death rates by age, race/ethnicity, and sex occurred among adults aged ≥85 years, non-Hispanic Black or African American (Black) and non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native (AI/AN) persons, and males. "
So blacks under the age of 85 died the MOST in 2020, but they don't explicitly say from what. Hmm, could that be related to all the black-on-black violence happening at a rapid uptick across the country?
Well, gun-violence did see a record uptick in 2020: https://www.businessinsider.com/2020-more-gun-deaths-than-any-year-over-two-decades-2021-3
And to my point, stats show that murder rates were up overall by 30%, especially in... ding, ding, ding... minority occupied cities: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9211217/US-murder-rates-2020-soar-30-cent-no-modern-precedent.html
What about suicide rates?
Well, good luck finding a reputable source. Even the CDC's latest figures are from 2019 and not 2020, and all the mainstream media outlets are saying "suicides are down", but also inadvertently admitting that tracking has become muddied because they aren't rating certain deaths as suicides, such as overdoses, as admitted to by the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/15/health/coronavirus-suicide-cdc.html
This passage here speaks volumes, though...
The decline came even as the number of unintentional overdose deaths rose dramatically during the pandemic. Some overdoses are classified as suicides; there is debate among researchers as to how many ought to be included.
Oh great, so now how many suicides may have been misreported as something else? What if you committed suicide but had COVID? What if you committed suicide by jumping off a bridge into water and had COVID? Do they count that as COVID-induced drowning?
I'm not kidding, the data has literally become muddled, and any reputable researcher reporting on actual infection/death rates have been censored: https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/08/17/covid-censor/
Those who were tracking the figures and comparing the data noticed a discrepancy in the actual death rates of COVID, and pointed out that -- just like I mentioned above -- death rates for lots of other categories were up overall throughout the year, but were being attributed to COVID: https://thetruthaboutcancer.com/cdc-inflates-coronavirus-deaths/
Anyone who has actually been attempting to track the data knows how faulty the data-tracking put out by the mainstream media actually is. One of the estimates -- even according to the CDC at the time -- reported that only 6% of reported COVID deaths were actually due solely to COVID.
This sort of fits in line with some early MSM reporting that admitted 94% of people who reportedly died with COVID had an underlying medical issue: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/cdc-94percent-of-covid-19-deaths-had-underlying-medical-conditions/ar-BB18wrA7
At least in Canada, I've seen at least a few doctors on Twitter post responses from their local Public Health authorities reflexively refusing to register reported adverse events in official databases because the "reported events don't meet established criteria of known adverse effects", assuredly without ever physical examining a patient, running diagnostic tests or reviewing patient records.
Forget it, Jake. Anti-vaccine loons gonna anti-vaccine.
That is not even what bothers me most. But that there are ignorant Stormfags infesting this place. It's only natural, as people who are not allowed to post in the other GG forums will come here, as will the people who come to any place that allows free speech to wreck it.
As Sophocles said 2400 years ago, count no man happy until he is dead, and count no experiment a failure until it is done. Things can change tomorrow if Reddit cracks down on our subs and a host of sanity appears.
It's not really neutral ground when you have no crazies. It's a crazy-free zone. And yes, but this is a different place with a different userbase.
People see they have been lied to about so many things, and begin wondering, with sometimes quite a meager intellect, whether they were also not lied to abut the Holocaust. Or vaccines as here.
Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely skeptical about the vaccines myself. It's been pushed by extreme authoritarians. But you do have to be a complete idiot not to accept that it's beneficial to at least some groups.