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– anta_occult 20 points 5 years ago +20 / -0

I think the other side will lose significant momentum if you can get them to go too far.

It's basically the same idea as pushing Trump supporters towards Qanon and get them to say and believe retarded things.

And if it doesn't work, that is, the amplified message is agreed upon and does not invalidate them, then accelerationism is the way to go anyways.

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– exilde 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

I prefer to look at is giving them momentum, so when the pendulum reverses, it reverses hard.

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– AntonioOfVenice 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Are you sure? You could also say that it expands the Overton Window to their side, which implies that it will swing back less far.

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– exilde 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

Nope.

There is a point where we needed to stop and we have clearly passed it but let's keep going and see what happens.

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– AntonioOfVenice 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

Is there any historical reason to believe this, or is this just optimism? There certainly are patterns of extremism and reaction, but I cannot immediately think of examples of whether the 'pendulum' theory would be valid. Perhaps Restoration England.

But even in the archetypical example, were the Thermidorian Reaction and Directory period really more conservative due to the extremism of the Terror?

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– RPD2 [S] 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

Seems to me the Overton window isn't just moving, but growing on both sides.

I'm seeing stuff on T_D which would never have been said 4 years ago.

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– Kweebecker 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Big tent issues combined with opposite extremism.

"Everyone is welcome, so long as they follow these rules" means everyone is welcome, so long as they follow those rules. And that general rule belongs to both sides: So long as you hate the other side and pay lip service to one or two tenants, you're welcome in their faith.

So the left gains people who literally preach genocide, because they 1) Hate the other side, and 2) Hate the right skin colors, religions, and sex. The right gains people who ask to deport natural citizens, because they 1) Hate the other side, and 2) Insist everyone is allowed to say anything while holding any gun, 1A and 2A compliant.

Add onto this big tent idea with the idea that the Right have a long entrenched idea of where the median, the middle ground, of the Overton Window is, and you get Right-wingers looking at the genocidal maniac Left saying "okay, if the Overton window is averaged at zero, and the left and us used to be -2 and +2, and now they're at +10, it makes sense that we need a couple -10's to bring it back to center, we can tolerate them for now."

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– Assassin47 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

They've already gone too far.

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