The link about Greenwood I posted yesterday from NPR said 20 million in modern day USD. They have no real clue what the actual damage was, they just grab whatever number they can and run with it.
Most sources I have seen say $30 million, which really does not seem like a lot. It probably was a lot for a people that 60 years earlier were slaves owning nothing.
We could take compound interest into account, rather than only inflation. But if we do, then the Indians who got $30 for Manhattan could buy all of New York, so it was actually a fair deal.
Yeah, I'm not surprised former slaves who build everything from scratch went "not today motherfuckers" and engaged in a pitched gun battle.
I'm still failing to see where even the black militiamen did anything wrong. Maybe shooting at the National Guard was a bad idea, but if you really think the white people have gone crazy and are trying to kill everyone, I'm not really gonna be surprised if you tell me that they shot at the National Guard.
Like, if you told me that Japanese citizens shot at US soldiers who were trying to intern them, my answer would be: "obviously".
I would say that the damage is at least "very substantial".
Considering the level of gunfire, and the amount of buildings set ablaze without the ability of the fire department to put out fires in predominately wooden structures, I'd have to assume we're looking at some Watts level destruction.
1920's Tulsa was a hotbed of criminality. Now, we don't have uniform crime reports from that era, but do you really believe that it was somehow less criminal than any other "prosperous middle-class neighborhood" that's black? Crime tracks race much better than socioeconomic status, as long as there have been statistics to measure it.
Now, we don't have uniform crime reports from that era
"I don't have any evidence, but I'm racist so my feelings count for more than any real data ever could."
do you really believe that it was somehow less criminal than any other "prosperous middle-class neighborhood" that's black? Crime tracks race much better than socioeconomic status, as long as there have been statistics to measure it.
Yes, because I've had to literally prove to other racists before that there are communities in America that are >85% Black, have an average family income of over $250,000 a year, and have effectively no crime.
Socio-economic status does not correlate well to crime, only violent crime, and only in the largest swathes. People making over $250,000 a year are not likely to commit violent crime. There's little incentive to. Age and prevalence of jobless men is probably a better corollary to violent crime.
Culture is a far better indicator of crime, and when you are talking about a community of people who have no interaction with the welfare state and literally developed communities from scratch, including white color professions, this is not a neighborhood that is likely to have a problem with crime.
But again, you have no evidence to work off, so the whole topic is moot. Not to mention that the crime rate had nothing to do with the riot.
Probably $200 million in 2020 USD. Which wouldn't be crazy for thousands of rounds fired, and dozens of building burnt down.
I mean, what did Kenosha get hit with? It's probably similar in damage.
The link about Greenwood I posted yesterday from NPR said 20 million in modern day USD. They have no real clue what the actual damage was, they just grab whatever number they can and run with it.
Most sources I have seen say $30 million, which really does not seem like a lot. It probably was a lot for a people that 60 years earlier were slaves owning nothing.
We could take compound interest into account, rather than only inflation. But if we do, then the Indians who got $30 for Manhattan could buy all of New York, so it was actually a fair deal.
Yeah, I'm not surprised former slaves who build everything from scratch went "not today motherfuckers" and engaged in a pitched gun battle.
I'm still failing to see where even the black militiamen did anything wrong. Maybe shooting at the National Guard was a bad idea, but if you really think the white people have gone crazy and are trying to kill everyone, I'm not really gonna be surprised if you tell me that they shot at the National Guard.
Like, if you told me that Japanese citizens shot at US soldiers who were trying to intern them, my answer would be: "obviously".
I would say that the damage is at least "very substantial".
Considering the level of gunfire, and the amount of buildings set ablaze without the ability of the fire department to put out fires in predominately wooden structures, I'd have to assume we're looking at some Watts level destruction.
Maybe 200mm if it wasn't a black neighborhood, with all the adjacent problems. Probably closer to 25mm as it stood.
What adjacent problems? It was a prosperous middle-class neighborhood.
1920's Tulsa was a hotbed of criminality. Now, we don't have uniform crime reports from that era, but do you really believe that it was somehow less criminal than any other "prosperous middle-class neighborhood" that's black? Crime tracks race much better than socioeconomic status, as long as there have been statistics to measure it.
"I don't have any evidence, but I'm racist so my feelings count for more than any real data ever could."
Yes, because I've had to literally prove to other racists before that there are communities in America that are >85% Black, have an average family income of over $250,000 a year, and have effectively no crime.
Socio-economic status does not correlate well to crime, only violent crime, and only in the largest swathes. People making over $250,000 a year are not likely to commit violent crime. There's little incentive to. Age and prevalence of jobless men is probably a better corollary to violent crime.
Culture is a far better indicator of crime, and when you are talking about a community of people who have no interaction with the welfare state and literally developed communities from scratch, including white color professions, this is not a neighborhood that is likely to have a problem with crime.
But again, you have no evidence to work off, so the whole topic is moot. Not to mention that the crime rate had nothing to do with the riot.