Post Reported for: Title is inaccurate: they did not declare it 'no longer safe'.
eehhhhhh. It's an opinion that this vaccine is "no longer safe", though I would question "no longer" if it hasn't changed. It was either safe enough or it was not safe enough since it was distributed, maybe we just didn't know the consequences.
I don't think I can make a clear ruling on this as false information, but I do need to make a contested flair.
Er...aren't contraceptives vastly more likely to give you blood clots than the Astrazeneca? I also find it rather curious that a lot of this talk is being driven by the EU, who's vaccine procurement scheme has gone down like cold sick whilst Britain has vaccinated about half its population.
I'm beginning to suspect some political fuckery/general EU incompetency (what else is new?) and they're just blaming Astrazeneca because it's the easiest thing to do.
"To be fair" (everyone hates those words), it is entirely possible that PER DOSE Astrazenica is more dangerous than birth control re:clotting, but one is taken twice, while the other is taken twice... per day. Or some other situation like that, where rather than the truth lying between both sides, both sides are entirely accurate but arguing different points.
0.00017% sounds like a lot less than 0.01%, until you realize that after 3 years, you've taken 1000x the doses. 0.00017*1000=0.17, far, FAR greater.
But that failure rate for a one-time risk is low enough to not be a concern compared to other, more likely side effects, or unknown longer term effects.
You'd need to multiply the vaccine number by 1000 to get anywhere close to the dosing amount of birth control. You wouldn't multiply the birth control by 1000, it's ALREADY 1000 times greater.
I was going to say ... what excess blood clots? I'd understood that yes, there were some blood clots ... about the number you'd expect in such a sample size.
Or are we shortly to receive news of the AZ vaccine leading to massive numbers of deaths from Alzheimer's - which is the UK's leading cause of death anyway...?
That does sound like something that the EU would do, but given the monumental and catastrophic failure that has been the EU vaccine rollout, and the extent to which the EU relies on AstraZeneca, I am not sure that they would be willing to engage in that degree of self-sabotage.
You underestimate just how stupid bureaucrats can be. You know they've seized millions of Astrazeneca doses, many of them bought and paid for by other countries, and then let them rot in the warehouse? It's because of this that Britain's vaccination drive has massively slowed down.
You underestimate just how stupid bureaucrats can be. You know they've seized millions of Astrazeneca doses, many of them bought and paid for by other countries, and then let them rot in the warehouse?
That does sound like something bureaucrats would do. But in case of bureaucrats, I'd sooner attribute it to incompetence (or rather, incentives) than malice.
I just know one thing: nothing that is done is done for the good of us dirty commoners.
It's because of this that Britain's vaccination drive has massively slowed down.
Cause you still have to deliver the vaccines to the other countries?
I recall Macron and Merkel being pissed they got no vaccine. Mark Blyth in his podcasts implied they went for the cheaper deal, and to no surprise it had lower priority.
You're talking to a professional victim who thinks, no kidding, that the virus was "created by women to kill men", and that this vaccine was "created by women to kill men". He just wants to play the victim.
His predictions never pan out, but that doesn't stop him from making further predictions based on the presumption that 51% of the world's population is plotting to kill him. Often wrong, but never in doubt.
Ladies and gents, we got it - the proof that the virus was just a plot to "kill men".
You're not just nuts, you're an automated nut dispenser.
My predictions never pan out?
I'll keep track of them, if you want, and make sure that everyone knows of the nonsense that you have puked out over the years.
'Member when you said that the "curfew for men" would be passed? 'Member when you said that Collins and Murkowski would vote for Trump's first impeachment?
I can go on and on, but reasoning with you is like playing chess with a pigeon. It all ends in "WAHMEN WANT TO KILL ME! HELP!"
You're starting to argue like our friends who blame the Jews for everything. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate that you stand against them. But this is what they use to say when their claims of a nefarious Jewish plot is challenged - though I do believe your word use is a coincidence.
I predicted the VP of Mastercard would abuse her power to bolster the position of OnlyFans. - PornHub ban verified this.
This is not prediction, it is delusion.
You don't know who was responsible for the PornHub ban, you just assume it because you saw "WAHMEN".
You don't know whether it was 'abuse of power'.
You don't know the actual reason for banning of PornHub (which was probably pedophilia), you just assume it.
You don't know whether it had anything at all to do with OnlyFans,
Even your retrospective 'prediction' (which you do not link, so which you may have made up), is complete bunk. Siri, give me Six Degrees of Conspiracy.
Feminist attempted to kill Trump for opposing their agenda.
This was not a prediction, and your claims about it were lies. Ah you see, it's nice that you linked your thread, because it makes your insane lies so clear. You label her as a 'feminist' and a 'radfem' for... a Twitter-post about International Women's Day. Then you proceed to make up that her motive for trying to kill Trump was that he opposed THEEEEIR agenda, for which you also have zero evidence.
Basically, you saw 'WAHMEN', and you figured that it must be a part of The Genocide against men, which they are definitely plotting and which is imminent in your mind.
I wasn't trying to sound like them. I just find it odd that a group that spends so much time saying that they are shut out of everything, is present nearly every time something nefarious happens.
That's a stretch, because they don't outwardly say it, it isn't true? By that logic the Holocaust isn't real because there isn't a speech by Hitler talking about it.
Why would a group that has taken power through hiding their intentions, suddenly openly state them? It's obvious it's about OnlyFans because of the timing and target - they decided to attack the porn sites now, when they just happen to have a better way to get rich off their bodies without any men limiting their pay?
I predicted they would lash out in some way when he started to pull their privileges away.
I just find it odd that a group that spends so much time saying that they are shut out of everything, is present nearly every time something nefarious happens.
Imagine that, when you're 51% of the population, there are a lot of suspicious sightings. They're not exactly Bigfoot. And no, they're not shut out of everything, that's a feminist lie. But don't lie in response to that.
That's a stretch, because they don't outwardly say it, it isn't true? By that logic the Holocaust isn't real because there isn't a speech by Hitler talking about it.
It's true if there is evidence for it. You're making all sorts of assumptions about whodunnit, and you can apparently even read the mind of the whodunnit (you divined that MasterCard's VP is very interested in helping OnlyFans). This is all without evidence, and more of your usual "when in doubt, blame a wahmen".
It's obvious it's about OnlyFans because of the timing and target - they decided to attack the porn sites now, when they just happen to have a better way to get rich off their bodies without any men limiting their pay?
Yes, it had absolutely nothing at all to do with PornHub promoting pedophilia, it was... Mastercard's VP trying to boost the salaries of OF-thots.
I predicted they would lash out in some way when he started to pull their privileges away.
And as I said, you didn't prove she was a feminist, let alone a radfem, nor did you prove that the reason for the assassination attempt was "their privileges".
Probably a lot, given there's no actual consequence to losing them and that I'm expecting overt discrimination when they've been doing things covertly since the 70s.
Yes, I hope one day that the people behind it face justice.
But that's irrelevant, because this post is just about the hypocrisy - they were willing to let people die when it was just men, but the moment one of their own is harmed, it's suddenly acknowledged that it's deadly.
But that's irrelevant, because this post is just about the hypocrisy - they were willing to let people die when it was just men, but the moment one of their own is harmed, it's suddenly acknowledged that it's deadly.
If they were banning AZ for a long time, as has been happening in places like Denmark, then you can't start screaming that THEEEEEEEY are only now banning AZ because one of THEEEEEEEEIR own was harmed.
??? The places that declared it safe when men were dying have now changed their minds. That's my point. Our lives are worth less than their mild discomfort.
Whine whine whine. If you sound like a feminist, it's because you're the mirror image of one.
have now changed their minds.
No one has changed his mind.
UBritain's Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) confirmed in a statement it was investigating "very rare and specific types of blood clots" but emphasised that people should continue to get their jabs.
It was just that 'women' were mentioned, which led you to FLIP OUT, Mr. Professional Victim.
Post Reported for: Title is inaccurate: they did not declare it 'no longer safe'.
eehhhhhh. It's an opinion that this vaccine is "no longer safe", though I would question "no longer" if it hasn't changed. It was either safe enough or it was not safe enough since it was distributed, maybe we just didn't know the consequences.
I don't think I can make a clear ruling on this as false information, but I do need to make a contested flair.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AFP/status/1379378456392298497
EMA now saying it's not safe.
Prediction : MHRA will rule it safe, but all the doses will go to men, while Moderna goes to women.
Er...aren't contraceptives vastly more likely to give you blood clots than the Astrazeneca? I also find it rather curious that a lot of this talk is being driven by the EU, who's vaccine procurement scheme has gone down like cold sick whilst Britain has vaccinated about half its population.
Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner!
"To be fair" (everyone hates those words), it is entirely possible that PER DOSE Astrazenica is more dangerous than birth control re:clotting, but one is taken twice, while the other is taken twice... per day. Or some other situation like that, where rather than the truth lying between both sides, both sides are entirely accurate but arguing different points.
0.00017% sounds like a lot less than 0.01%, until you realize that after 3 years, you've taken 1000x the doses. 0.00017*1000=0.17, far, FAR greater.
But that failure rate for a one-time risk is low enough to not be a concern compared to other, more likely side effects, or unknown longer term effects.
You're reversing the calculation. People take birth control for three years. One dose per day, 365 days, three years, 1000+ doses.
And they calc it usually by "did they get one while on it?", for most such things. If they're really diligent, they'll include a baseline rate, too.
Precisely.
You'd need to multiply the vaccine number by 1000 to get anywhere close to the dosing amount of birth control. You wouldn't multiply the birth control by 1000, it's ALREADY 1000 times greater.
AstraZeneca vaccine FUD (Fear Uncertainty Doubt) seems sponsored/started by EU.
They want to make UK fail.
I was going to say ... what excess blood clots? I'd understood that yes, there were some blood clots ... about the number you'd expect in such a sample size.
Or are we shortly to receive news of the AZ vaccine leading to massive numbers of deaths from Alzheimer's - which is the UK's leading cause of death anyway...?
That does sound like something that the EU would do, but given the monumental and catastrophic failure that has been the EU vaccine rollout, and the extent to which the EU relies on AstraZeneca, I am not sure that they would be willing to engage in that degree of self-sabotage.
You underestimate just how stupid bureaucrats can be. You know they've seized millions of Astrazeneca doses, many of them bought and paid for by other countries, and then let them rot in the warehouse? It's because of this that Britain's vaccination drive has massively slowed down.
That does sound like something bureaucrats would do. But in case of bureaucrats, I'd sooner attribute it to incompetence (or rather, incentives) than malice.
I just know one thing: nothing that is done is done for the good of us dirty commoners.
Cause you still have to deliver the vaccines to the other countries?
I recall Macron and Merkel being pissed they got no vaccine. Mark Blyth in his podcasts implied they went for the cheaper deal, and to no surprise it had lower priority.
But here: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/astrazenca-vaccine-covid-france-politics-science-b1818565.html
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210323-merkel-backs-eu-chief-s-astrazeneca-export-ban-threat
https://www.bbc.com/news/56483766
You're talking to a professional victim who thinks, no kidding, that the virus was "created by women to kill men", and that this vaccine was "created by women to kill men". He just wants to play the victim.
His predictions never pan out, but that doesn't stop him from making further predictions based on the presumption that 51% of the world's population is plotting to kill him. Often wrong, but never in doubt.
Who is Dr Wang Yanyi? Who is Shi Zhengli?
My predictions never pan out? Really? Pretty sure nobody agrees with that, because I've made several that have.
Ladies and gents, we got it - the proof that the virus was just a plot to "kill men".
You're not just nuts, you're an automated nut dispenser.
I'll keep track of them, if you want, and make sure that everyone knows of the nonsense that you have puked out over the years.
'Member when you said that the "curfew for men" would be passed? 'Member when you said that Collins and Murkowski would vote for Trump's first impeachment?
I can go on and on, but reasoning with you is like playing chess with a pigeon. It all ends in "WAHMEN WANT TO KILL ME! HELP!"
Well, how many coincidences are too many?
Counter argument :
I predicted the VP of Mastercard would abuse her power to bolster the position of OnlyFans. - PornHub ban verified this.
I stated that all leftist movements are feminist in terms of their goals - fight for $15 got outed for this. Women benefit from this policy by 61/39.
https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/11Q8upKrBY/from-one-unelected-female-leader/c/ - removed thread that verified my claim that Boris Johnson was women's puppet.
https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/11PosXalsm/radfem-psycho-who-attempted-to-a/c/ - Feminist attempted to kill Trump for opposing their agenda.
I can't be bothered to go through my comments for every correct prediction.
You're starting to argue like our friends who blame the Jews for everything. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate that you stand against them. But this is what they use to say when their claims of a nefarious Jewish plot is challenged - though I do believe your word use is a coincidence.
This is not prediction, it is delusion.
Even your retrospective 'prediction' (which you do not link, so which you may have made up), is complete bunk. Siri, give me Six Degrees of Conspiracy.
This was not a prediction, and your claims about it were lies. Ah you see, it's nice that you linked your thread, because it makes your insane lies so clear. You label her as a 'feminist' and a 'radfem' for... a Twitter-post about International Women's Day. Then you proceed to make up that her motive for trying to kill Trump was that he opposed THEEEEIR agenda, for which you also have zero evidence.
Basically, you saw 'WAHMEN', and you figured that it must be a part of The Genocide against men, which they are definitely plotting and which is imminent in your mind.
I wasn't trying to sound like them. I just find it odd that a group that spends so much time saying that they are shut out of everything, is present nearly every time something nefarious happens.
That's a stretch, because they don't outwardly say it, it isn't true? By that logic the Holocaust isn't real because there isn't a speech by Hitler talking about it.
Why would a group that has taken power through hiding their intentions, suddenly openly state them? It's obvious it's about OnlyFans because of the timing and target - they decided to attack the porn sites now, when they just happen to have a better way to get rich off their bodies without any men limiting their pay?
I predicted they would lash out in some way when he started to pull their privileges away.
Imagine that, when you're 51% of the population, there are a lot of suspicious sightings. They're not exactly Bigfoot. And no, they're not shut out of everything, that's a feminist lie. But don't lie in response to that.
It's true if there is evidence for it. You're making all sorts of assumptions about whodunnit, and you can apparently even read the mind of the whodunnit (you divined that MasterCard's VP is very interested in helping OnlyFans). This is all without evidence, and more of your usual "when in doubt, blame a wahmen".
Yes, it had absolutely nothing at all to do with PornHub promoting pedophilia, it was... Mastercard's VP trying to boost the salaries of OF-thots.
And as I said, you didn't prove she was a feminist, let alone a radfem, nor did you prove that the reason for the assassination attempt was "their privileges".
So... always wrong, but never in doubt.
$10 says that women will be exempted from taking it.
When Europe reported dead men, they defended this poison. Now it mildly affects their own, it suddenly is a problem.
Keep digging, you'll go so low you dig through the Earth and reach China.
Done.
Just how many bets are you going to lose against me?
Probably a lot, given there's no actual consequence to losing them and that I'm expecting overt discrimination when they've been doing things covertly since the 70s.
Nice of you to admit that I'm always right.
It's more that I always expect them to make a dramatic move now that power is secured, but they keep waiting for...something.
Who are the 'them'?
The female supremacists and their controlled puppets.
You know what other injectable drug is also known for increasing the risk of DVT ?
Delestrogen
I had to look this up.
We can move on from this clown shit. Population is too high anyway, we aren't at risk of species loss.
Women are highly disposable from an economic and societal standpoint.
Oh, you're one of those people.
Enjoy white women's knives in your back because they care about race about as much as I care about them.
Keep believing that. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the "Jewing" only started to work when they didn't depend on us financially.
Or...they were nice to us purely because they liked our money, like you hide your "power level" at work because you don't want to be fired.
Haven't you been screaming about this government and that government banning AZ for a long time now?
Check 'new', see article with some comments. See author of submission. "Damn, it's probably just going to be Antonio calling Impossible names."
Sure enough.
Yes, I hope one day that the people behind it face justice.
But that's irrelevant, because this post is just about the hypocrisy - they were willing to let people die when it was just men, but the moment one of their own is harmed, it's suddenly acknowledged that it's deadly.
If they were banning AZ for a long time, as has been happening in places like Denmark, then you can't start screaming that THEEEEEEEY are only now banning AZ because one of THEEEEEEEEIR own was harmed.
??? The places that declared it safe when men were dying have now changed their minds. That's my point. Our lives are worth less than their mild discomfort.
Whine whine whine. If you sound like a feminist, it's because you're the mirror image of one.
No one has changed his mind.
It was just that 'women' were mentioned, which led you to FLIP OUT, Mr. Professional Victim.
So the fact that they're investigating something that they said was already investigated two/three weeks ago isn't changing their mind?
The last result is literally pinned to their Twitter as the last word on this.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MHRAgovuk/status/1372548828172316685
You're admitting that they are investigating reports, not saying that it is 'no longer safe'. You lied.
This is a stretch.