This is, unfortunately, a common sentiment. Very few will truly be pro-free speech because along with it comes ideas that are undoubtedly offensive to everyone, but there's implicit acknowledgement that denying a fundamental right - absent of danger to personal safety (e.g. yelling fire in a crowded theater) - is wrong.
Hate speech laws muddy the waters too. Crime should be crime, but zealousness in being "on the right side" adds a slippery slope, which of course predictably gets abused despite being mocked as a strawman; the opposite side, of course, is free to hold double standards and accuse free speech advocates of supporting child pornography or the like.
I expect this from media, but I find it very irritating to see "free speech" platforms make all types of caveats.
The thing about "hate speech" is this: While you can ask people to be civil to one another and refrain from harming people you don't like just because you don't like them, trying to force people to pretend they actually do like one another never works out. But the kum-by-yah-fags really think they can make their weird combination of Doctor Who's "The Happiness Patrol" and Black Mirror's "Nosedive" a utopia this time.
This phrase was made famous by a supreme court decision about free speech. It was an analogy then, too. The ACTUAL speech that was being restricted was pamphlets protesting the draft in WW1, not yelling in a theatre, and that decision was rightly overturned a long time ago. People always quote it when talking about freedom of speech, but the fact that it's most famous use was to justify outlawing speech that should have been legal really makes it's use fall flat.
It reminds me of the time Gab was first was making the news for being a hub for radical speech. Many of the never Trump/useless conservative types, wouldn't defend them under the grounds of freedom of expression, even though they all claimed to support free speech. These morons couldn't seem to grasp the fact that you need to defend all speech to actually claim the mantle of a being a free speech supporter.
This is, unfortunately, a common sentiment. Very few will truly be pro-free speech because along with it comes ideas that are undoubtedly offensive to everyone, but there's implicit acknowledgement that denying a fundamental right - absent of danger to personal safety (e.g. yelling fire in a crowded theater) - is wrong.
Hate speech laws muddy the waters too. Crime should be crime, but zealousness in being "on the right side" adds a slippery slope, which of course predictably gets abused despite being mocked as a strawman; the opposite side, of course, is free to hold double standards and accuse free speech advocates of supporting child pornography or the like.
I expect this from media, but I find it very irritating to see "free speech" platforms make all types of caveats.
The thing about "hate speech" is this: While you can ask people to be civil to one another and refrain from harming people you don't like just because you don't like them, trying to force people to pretend they actually do like one another never works out. But the kum-by-yah-fags really think they can make their weird combination of Doctor Who's "The Happiness Patrol" and Black Mirror's "Nosedive" a utopia this time.
This phrase was made famous by a supreme court decision about free speech. It was an analogy then, too. The ACTUAL speech that was being restricted was pamphlets protesting the draft in WW1, not yelling in a theatre, and that decision was rightly overturned a long time ago. People always quote it when talking about freedom of speech, but the fact that it's most famous use was to justify outlawing speech that should have been legal really makes it's use fall flat.
Looks like my public education has greatly failed me. This is excellent to know for the next time.
It reminds me of the time Gab was first was making the news for being a hub for radical speech. Many of the never Trump/useless conservative types, wouldn't defend them under the grounds of freedom of expression, even though they all claimed to support free speech. These morons couldn't seem to grasp the fact that you need to defend all speech to actually claim the mantle of a being a free speech supporter.