It's "communist" cause that's what they are. . We need to stop playing on the same field as the left, being called communist is extremely terrible (or should be) yet they somehow managed to make it "not" . That should be changed .
in what way? Its literally just a factual statement, And a lot even call themselves that (and unironically love Karl Marx), And they behave the same and engage in literally everything communists did in the past. (though with more focus on "race and gender war", than "class war").And people who have actually lived through communism or knows the history can recognize it straight away.
I don't think you understand what fascism was. It does not just mean totalitarian or oppressive. If you think that Trump and the right wing have been slandered, then you shouldn't be surprised to know that very similar propaganda was used against many other nationalist parties in the past. The more successful they were at opposing international finance, the worse the propaganda.
When normal people ask my about politics I've started telling them "I can't stand most people and try to live as far away from them as I can so they can't bother me. I like my neighbors and just try to make my neighborhood a better place to live". Which is all true, and it lets them fill in the blanks as to which people with what politics are doing the "bothering". And it's especially true now that politics don't matter anymore.
I speak from experience that if you go off about "totalitarian hellholes" and "medical fascism" or anything like that, people just think you're crazy. If they like you you'll be "that buddy of mine who's kinda out there"; and people will try to get you to start drinking so they can hear you say crazy shit. If they don't like you they'll probably just stop talking to you.
Think about the very first time you heard Alex Jones or someone on the Art Bell (F) show say something. How did you react to that? That's how people are going to react to you. Hell even Art Bell on his show reacted negatively to things some of us believe. Think about how outside the Overton Window you'd have to be for Art Bell to think you're nuts. That's where we are.
October 22, 1997, the "Officer X" episode if for some reason that link gets removed.
The part that starts to piss Art off is around the 2:23:00 mark. Caller (calls himself the "NRA hippie") states that global warming is used as an excuse to turn US sovereignty over to the UN, talks about us having troops in over 100 countries, criticizes Clinton for starting military engagements despite being a draft dodger himself, calls Bill Clinton a murderer for Waco.
Part that gets the caller booted off the show starts at about 2:25:15, when he says global warming will be used to "destroy the sovereignty of our Constitutional Republic and to drive our standard of living down to that of some mud-hut third-world country"
Personally I find little about that I disagree with, except I don't think it's the UN. Maybe he could have phrased it better, but the phrasing wasn't the only thing Art objects to. Called it the "standard ideological myopic view of somebody on the far right"
I know what you're getting at trying to accomplish, but the first thing I think is it just wouldn't do anything anyway. If you read or watch Bezmenov for example, he talks about subversion and demoralization, and the thing is they are totally incapable of seeing the truth. The masses that support the one-party authoritarian state really believe in what they are doing. They think they are preserving democracy, protecting the vulnerable, and all that. They aren't confused and going along the best they can, they are brainwashed. No matter what you call them, they will never believe you and they will just instantly demonize you, as no matter how right you are to them you are wrong. I suppose it won't hurt to call them that if they already hate you, but it won't help and isn't all that accurate.
Words are all mixed up so much anyway. I'd probably call them Marxists the most or something like Globalist Nazis. Glozis anyone? The biggest differences I can see from Nazis are they are not nationalists, the white man is the source of all the world's problems instead of jews, and they want government authoritarianism mixed in everything. But even then I'm generalizing. I could go with Globalist Marxists, or some sort of Communist, or all kinds of things. Nor do I really think calling a Trump supporter a Nazi, because they are nationalists and perceived as racists, is correct. It's just taking the "National" part out of it and using it to mean "extra bad racist." You can't totally forget the sozialistische part.
It's "communist" cause that's what they are. . We need to stop playing on the same field as the left, being called communist is extremely terrible (or should be) yet they somehow managed to make it "not" . That should be changed .
OK fine, I'll meet you in the middle and agree to just call them gay retards
Fair enough lol.
in what way? Its literally just a factual statement, And a lot even call themselves that (and unironically love Karl Marx), And they behave the same and engage in literally everything communists did in the past. (though with more focus on "race and gender war", than "class war").And people who have actually lived through communism or knows the history can recognize it straight away.
This is a waste of time. Congrats, you’ll further dilute an already useless word, look like a cringy moron, and accomplish nothing.
Nah man it’s all good, crayet already set me straight. We’re going with “gay retards” now
I don't think you understand what fascism was. It does not just mean totalitarian or oppressive. If you think that Trump and the right wing have been slandered, then you shouldn't be surprised to know that very similar propaganda was used against many other nationalist parties in the past. The more successful they were at opposing international finance, the worse the propaganda.
They are female supremacists and I will die on that hill.
When normal people ask my about politics I've started telling them "I can't stand most people and try to live as far away from them as I can so they can't bother me. I like my neighbors and just try to make my neighborhood a better place to live". Which is all true, and it lets them fill in the blanks as to which people with what politics are doing the "bothering". And it's especially true now that politics don't matter anymore.
I speak from experience that if you go off about "totalitarian hellholes" and "medical fascism" or anything like that, people just think you're crazy. If they like you you'll be "that buddy of mine who's kinda out there"; and people will try to get you to start drinking so they can hear you say crazy shit. If they don't like you they'll probably just stop talking to you.
Think about the very first time you heard Alex Jones or someone on the Art Bell (F) show say something. How did you react to that? That's how people are going to react to you. Hell even Art Bell on his show reacted negatively to things some of us believe. Think about how outside the Overton Window you'd have to be for Art Bell to think you're nuts. That's where we are.
October 22, 1997, the "Officer X" episode if for some reason that link gets removed.
The part that starts to piss Art off is around the 2:23:00 mark. Caller (calls himself the "NRA hippie") states that global warming is used as an excuse to turn US sovereignty over to the UN, talks about us having troops in over 100 countries, criticizes Clinton for starting military engagements despite being a draft dodger himself, calls Bill Clinton a murderer for Waco.
Part that gets the caller booted off the show starts at about 2:25:15, when he says global warming will be used to "destroy the sovereignty of our Constitutional Republic and to drive our standard of living down to that of some mud-hut third-world country"
Personally I find little about that I disagree with, except I don't think it's the UN. Maybe he could have phrased it better, but the phrasing wasn't the only thing Art objects to. Called it the "standard ideological myopic view of somebody on the far right"
I know what you're getting at trying to accomplish, but the first thing I think is it just wouldn't do anything anyway. If you read or watch Bezmenov for example, he talks about subversion and demoralization, and the thing is they are totally incapable of seeing the truth. The masses that support the one-party authoritarian state really believe in what they are doing. They think they are preserving democracy, protecting the vulnerable, and all that. They aren't confused and going along the best they can, they are brainwashed. No matter what you call them, they will never believe you and they will just instantly demonize you, as no matter how right you are to them you are wrong. I suppose it won't hurt to call them that if they already hate you, but it won't help and isn't all that accurate.
Words are all mixed up so much anyway. I'd probably call them Marxists the most or something like Globalist Nazis. Glozis anyone? The biggest differences I can see from Nazis are they are not nationalists, the white man is the source of all the world's problems instead of jews, and they want government authoritarianism mixed in everything. But even then I'm generalizing. I could go with Globalist Marxists, or some sort of Communist, or all kinds of things. Nor do I really think calling a Trump supporter a Nazi, because they are nationalists and perceived as racists, is correct. It's just taking the "National" part out of it and using it to mean "extra bad racist." You can't totally forget the sozialistische part.