Trump signs garbage spending bill
(pjmedia.com)
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He pretty much had to, they would have just overruled the veto with a 2/3 majority anyway. IIUC there's still the option of a pocket veto, where he ensures that Congress is adjourned when the bill is supposed to become an act - but it looks more like he's trying to get them to vote on the individual items that he annotated, to put their names next to those things.
Should've just vetoed. Flat out. Make them override, that's fine, but his objection stands in the record.
And how do you think the media would have spun that?
He can't win here. Plain and simple.
Vetoing this just allows the left to use
the mediatheir propaganda/indoctrination arm to spin it so that, "Look how little Trump cares about people suffering! Now look how - wow - Biden came in and worked with congress to take care of the people!He can't win. It doesn't matter if "doing x is obviously the correct course", when the other side has the ability to make it so that the vast majority of the public will believe the opposite.
Seriously? It's all downside for him if he signs, all upside if he doesn't.
Sign: Your signature is your approval and your complicity. Your supporters will think you've betrayed them. Your enemies still hate you. Another crack has formed in the foundation of your future campaign.
Don't sign: Your supporters appreciate that you signaled your dissent against this heinous bill. You might actually get normies on board, because the optics of the bill are so fucking bad. Your enemies still hate you.
Who cares about media spin at this point. It doesn't matter if he dies for the sins of man, the media will always shit on him. His supporters know that. Signing is the wrong move, regardless of how it plays in the news.
In what way? If he doesn't sign, the media spends the next MONTH+ running sob stories of all the people losing their homes, losing their jobs, etc. They will place 100% of the blame on Trump. "Why didn't he want to help these people in their time of need? How could he let 'the perfect' be the enemy of 'the good'. It was obvious to everyone but him that the people needed something"
Then, what you're going to get - which is what we are STILL likely to get - is the leftist controlled congress, getting a bigger deal done - once Biden is installed - and the media is going to absolutely fellatiate them (and themselves, seeing as its the media's preferred party) for how it took "Getting rid of
HitlerTrump, and handing the reins of power back to the left, to finally help the people!"You honestly don't think that's what the goal is here? Seriously?
And it does matter how it plays in the news. It's not just about Trump. The fucking media is using COVID, using the BLM shit, using Trump in order to try to destroy the GOP permanently - or split them into two - so that they can have permanent, one fucking party, leftist control of the government.
Veto. Throw it out introduce the $2000 no rider bill and force cucks ro sign it.
Sadly, it never happened.
Yeah, but the question is whether they'll vote to release the funds in advance of the deadline.
IMO the situation largely boils down to either believing that congress will be under enough pressure to force their hand or not. In the latter case, they'll get the pork anyway, albeit more slowly, so it would be better to force them to overrule a veto.
As I'm extremely cynical, I'll go against the "disinformation" and other arguments that seem like over simplification or naivety. I'd love to be proven wrong about congressional temperature.
The reason I don't think a veto-on-principle would have been very effective is that this omnibus spending bill is basically a national budget, and members of Congress will defend voting for it on that basis. It's hard to justify throwing the whole thing out on the basis of a few wrinkles, and that's exactly the tactic they're using to push this through.
Now whether Trump's objections will do anything is another question - I'm not sure they even need to vote on them individually (as people on TD are saying) or if they can just sweep them aside as a whole. But I do think that an outright veto would have done nothing.
A few wrinkles it’s a 5,000 page onion of totalitarian insanity.
Hey I don't disagree, I'm just saying that's the reason they would give to vote for it anyway (now that people have actually seen the bill).
And he didn’t deem it necessary to reconsider massive funneling of tax dollars to hostile foreign dictatorships or the fucking of copyright and patents to mean only major leftist cult corporations will ever win.