Do be careful about trusting some of these initial witness reports. I know Memeology 101 is putting out news footage of a witness statement saying he heard 3, then 5, then 10 gunshots.
A lot of people on 9/11 claimed that the first attack on the WTC tower were from "missiles" being fired into it. The initial report at the pentagon that the news was circulating was of a helicopter crash.
Or hell, I could just tell you about "Hands up, don't shoot"
Take a bit of a grain of salt with the witnesses. They have a nasty habit of back-rationalizing what they think they heard or saw to create a coherent narrative that they can better understand, rather than keeping to the specifics of what actually happened.
A gunfight related to the RV would seem highly unlikely. I'm also not totally convinced that the warning was designed to lure people to the RV. I'm not totally convinced of this countdown announcement either since we can hear the evacuation broadcast, but not the countdown.
We don't know that the audio is genuine. Anyone can add a sound track. Considering the time and place, I highly doubt it was meant for mass casualties.
Spez: It would be a convenient way to get rid of your wife if you were already going to set off a big ass bomb for other reasons. Two birds with one stone.
Also, the cops say they were responding to a shots fired call, so regardless of how many shots were actually fired, someone thought they heard gunshots and called the police.
It would be a convenient way to get rid of your wife if you were already going to set off a big ass bomb for other reasons. Two birds with one stone.
Honestly, a lone wolf attack for petty reasons just isn't out of the realm of possibility here.
At least one witness claims to have heard shots fired. It could be real, or it could be the attacker attempting to inform the police, and the witness was confused. We'll probably get better info in the coming days.
I guarantee you that the FBI are going to find out where that RV came from.
As for the lone wolf, it's absolutely possible, but would you believe it?
No.
Longer answer: outside of random "send pipebomb" and "shoot some randos" or "~~Aloha Snackbar~` workplace violence", there's almost no instances of self-taught, self-supported, true lone wolves. Uncle Ted is about it, if you account for the fact that McVeigh and Nichols repeatedly admitted that they had a third accomplice...
They have a nasty habit of back-rationalizing what they think they heard or saw to create a coherent narrative that they can better understand, rather than keeping to the specifics of what actually happened.
I actually experienced this personally a few months ago. I witnessed a car crash when I was sitting at a red light. The only thing I was sure of was that a pickup t-boned a sedan (everyone ended up being okay), and when I glanced up at the light a few seconds later, my light was green. As little as 30 minutes later, I had constructed a whole narrative in my head of what had happened based on shit I couldn't have known at the time. Luckily, I caught myself.
It's a real problem with the human mind. It's not necessarily true that we're good at just pattern recognition. It's that our brain thinks in narratives, no matter what the facts are. We just have to put things in narratives, or they become very difficult to comprehend or understand. If we don't have evidence for a narrative, we start inserting things that sound like it makes sense, and then we see the narrative as fact.
Do be careful about trusting some of these initial witness reports. I know Memeology 101 is putting out news footage of a witness statement saying he heard 3, then 5, then 10 gunshots.
A lot of people on 9/11 claimed that the first attack on the WTC tower were from "missiles" being fired into it. The initial report at the pentagon that the news was circulating was of a helicopter crash.
Or hell, I could just tell you about "Hands up, don't shoot"
Take a bit of a grain of salt with the witnesses. They have a nasty habit of back-rationalizing what they think they heard or saw to create a coherent narrative that they can better understand, rather than keeping to the specifics of what actually happened.
A gunfight related to the RV would seem highly unlikely. I'm also not totally convinced that the warning was designed to lure people to the RV. I'm not totally convinced of this countdown announcement either since we can hear the evacuation broadcast, but not the countdown.
We don't know that the audio is genuine. Anyone can add a sound track. Considering the time and place, I highly doubt it was meant for mass casualties.
Spez: It would be a convenient way to get rid of your wife if you were already going to set off a big ass bomb for other reasons. Two birds with one stone.
Your skepticism is valid. It could be a fake audio track.Actually, I take back what I said earlier. The cops said that they were attempting to evacuate the area because they had heard a loudspeaker from the RV attempting to tell people to evacuate the area due to what the Chief said was a "potential bomb". The audio track may be genuine, as it matches up with the Police Department's statement.
Also, the cops say they were responding to a shots fired call, so regardless of how many shots were actually fired, someone thought they heard gunshots and called the police.
Honestly, a lone wolf attack for petty reasons just isn't out of the realm of possibility here.
At least one witness claims to have heard shots fired. It could be real, or it could be the attacker attempting to inform the police, and the witness was confused. We'll probably get better info in the coming days.
I guarantee you that the FBI are going to find out where that RV came from.
I stand corrected about the audio. As for the lone wolf, it's absolutely possible, but would you believe it?
Yeah.
Lone wolf terrorism is a thing. It's possible he got some help, but was the primary actor.
No.
Longer answer: outside of random "send pipebomb" and "shoot some randos" or "~~Aloha Snackbar~` workplace violence", there's almost no instances of self-taught, self-supported, true lone wolves. Uncle Ted is about it, if you account for the fact that McVeigh and Nichols repeatedly admitted that they had a third accomplice...
I actually experienced this personally a few months ago. I witnessed a car crash when I was sitting at a red light. The only thing I was sure of was that a pickup t-boned a sedan (everyone ended up being okay), and when I glanced up at the light a few seconds later, my light was green. As little as 30 minutes later, I had constructed a whole narrative in my head of what had happened based on shit I couldn't have known at the time. Luckily, I caught myself.
It's a real problem with the human mind. It's not necessarily true that we're good at just pattern recognition. It's that our brain thinks in narratives, no matter what the facts are. We just have to put things in narratives, or they become very difficult to comprehend or understand. If we don't have evidence for a narrative, we start inserting things that sound like it makes sense, and then we see the narrative as fact.
You kinda have to be trained to not do that.
Having been accused of this before, the Elders of Zion is a book, rather than people.