If they were all white identitarians like Richard Spencer who endorsed Biden, it would make sense. Frankly, I don't think there's that many white identitarians to account for the change.
That's just because they want to hold onto the argument that they are the real conservatives. Spencer knows that Institutional Racialism is the best way to get a white identiarian movement going and the Democrats are literally building it into the financial & legal system.
I think that's just your sect of white nationalists. Most white people don't care if Trump panders to blacks, and if suburban white women are anything to go by, they actually favor it.
Even normal MAGABoomers are put off by just how hard Trump has been pandering to blacks. You literally just made a post the other day about whites overwhelmingly coming out for Trump. That's because whites saw Trump actually caring about their interests.
Over the past month or two Trump moved away from appealing to whites and it shows.
I've been saying this over and over for months: blacks aren't gonna show up to win Trump the election. He needs to show whites he cares about them. 500 billion extra welfare to blacks does the opposite, no matter how much "DEMOCRATS R THE REAL RACSIS" shitposting they do.
I know what I've been saying and it was that blacks voting for Trump wouldn't have any significant effect except to break part of the Democratic coalition. Instead I've said that white non-college educated Americans are way more significant.
What we're disagreeing on is what you think white interests are. You want him to pander to white identitarianism, and that has (and continues) to be a terrible idea because the vast and sweeping majority of whites abandoned white identitarianism starting around 60 years ago.
You could argue that maybe Trump hurt the midwestern rural white farmers with the trade war with China (as the Left does), but I don't see that in the fact that significant portions of midwestern rural counties are all blood red.
Looking back at what the exit polls are showing, and comparing it to the data I still have from my earlier post, it looks to me that both parties gained many millions of white voters, except Biden basically gained all of the 3rd party white voters that the Democrats had lost almost a decade ago.
Fundamentally you're arguing that Trump lost white voters. He didn't. He just gained fewer white voters than what the Democrats recalled. He gained over a million white voters in 2016, it looks like he'll have gained almost more than 5 million this year. The problem is that the Democratic establishment sucked back in about 10 million white votes, a huge swath of that from Leftists that had walked away from the party.
Stuff like the platinum plan sits really badly with whites.
Many who supported Trump in 2016 feel betrayed and abandoned by after Trump turned virtually all his focus to minority groups.
Trump will still win but he would have won by HUGE margins if he just appealed to white men instead of endless pandering to joggers and beaners.
Did those white men simply not vote? Because I don't see how they could vote for Biden just to spite Trump for his minority outreach.
If they were all white identitarians like Richard Spencer who endorsed Biden, it would make sense. Frankly, I don't think there's that many white identitarians to account for the change.
well apparently i heard white identitarians consider Richard spencer to be a grifter or a troll apparently
That's just because they want to hold onto the argument that they are the real conservatives. Spencer knows that Institutional Racialism is the best way to get a white identiarian movement going and the Democrats are literally building it into the financial & legal system.
I think that's just your sect of white nationalists. Most white people don't care if Trump panders to blacks, and if suburban white women are anything to go by, they actually favor it.
It's not just white nationalists.
Even normal MAGABoomers are put off by just how hard Trump has been pandering to blacks. You literally just made a post the other day about whites overwhelmingly coming out for Trump. That's because whites saw Trump actually caring about their interests.
Over the past month or two Trump moved away from appealing to whites and it shows.
I've been saying this over and over for months: blacks aren't gonna show up to win Trump the election. He needs to show whites he cares about them. 500 billion extra welfare to blacks does the opposite, no matter how much "DEMOCRATS R THE REAL RACSIS" shitposting they do.
I know what I've been saying and it was that blacks voting for Trump wouldn't have any significant effect except to break part of the Democratic coalition. Instead I've said that white non-college educated Americans are way more significant.
What we're disagreeing on is what you think white interests are. You want him to pander to white identitarianism, and that has (and continues) to be a terrible idea because the vast and sweeping majority of whites abandoned white identitarianism starting around 60 years ago.
You could argue that maybe Trump hurt the midwestern rural white farmers with the trade war with China (as the Left does), but I don't see that in the fact that significant portions of midwestern rural counties are all blood red.
Looking back at what the exit polls are showing, and comparing it to the data I still have from my earlier post, it looks to me that both parties gained many millions of white voters, except Biden basically gained all of the 3rd party white voters that the Democrats had lost almost a decade ago.
Fundamentally you're arguing that Trump lost white voters. He didn't. He just gained fewer white voters than what the Democrats recalled. He gained over a million white voters in 2016, it looks like he'll have gained almost more than 5 million this year. The problem is that the Democratic establishment sucked back in about 10 million white votes, a huge swath of that from Leftists that had walked away from the party.