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Piroko 3 points ago +3 / -0

At Iowa State, there's an annual 26 hour team radio contest called Kaleidoquiz put on by the local FM station.

As part of the events, there is a road trip contest that involves driving the four corners in a circuit (they use various methods to ensure that a circuit is actually driven). The contest is 26 hours because that's how long it takes to drive the circuit starting and ending at Ames.

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Piroko 2 points ago +2 / -0

I just don't get you Able. You never see me complaining about downvoat score. Ever. I don't care.

For as many strong opinions as you seem to have, I would think you'd be past caring too.

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Piroko 5 points ago +5 / -0

For a person who gets into as many shit flinging contests as you do, I don't see why you still pay attention to votes.

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Piroko 3 points ago +4 / -1

Get to the US somehow?

Do we want another free rider?

We already know he'd grumble "Hail Caesar" rather than be nailed to the cross. Is that the sort of person we want?

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Piroko 13 points ago +14 / -1

The government just went out and made it law, and people complied.

Yes. And you ask us when it will end.

To which we ask you, when are you willing to storm the Bastille?

Americans understand this. Next week the Supreme Court WILL strike down the vaccine mandate. But we intuitively know what would happen if they did not. What would happen if ALL civil means of disagreeing with the policy were exhausted. That all would be left would be uncivil means, and people would start dying. And when a whole third of the country is saying "fuck no", it would get messy fast.

The only reason America isn't already torn apart in civil war is the belief that the system still works despite an incompetent executive and an absentee legislature.

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Piroko 23 points ago +26 / -3

Make a fuss? Get myself arrested?

Do you understand why the American government must tread on eggshells?

Because in this country there are a hundred million gun owners and only five million armed public servants.

So what? I can't really fucking DO much

You can gamble your life to make the government fear you, or you can fear your government. This is the choice the Founders made. This is the choice your ancestors refused to make.

That the price is higher today does not change the nature of it.

You can curse your ancestors all you want for being shortsighted and lazy but that does not change your situation.

An Afghani goat herder understands freedom more than you do. We occupied their country for twenty years and they drove us out.

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Piroko 18 points ago +23 / -5

When will people wake up?

You tell me.

I'm in a red state, you're the one in Australia.

You're the one who has to tell yourself: "I don't want to die, but I refuse to live like this."

You tell me when you're ready to say that.

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Piroko 11 points ago +11 / -0

Seriously, don't speed in Iowa. State Patrol is always watching I-80.

Merced to Omaha is a long ass drive only to get busted after you cross the Missouri.

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Piroko 17 points ago +17 / -0

Not a prank, those lines are actually in the publication.

https://www.irs.gov/publications/p17

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Piroko 0 points ago +3 / -3

5k

Which is more than enough to buy a whole car outright at...

CAPITOL CITY MOTOR COMPANY, ONE BLOCK OFF TWO THIRTY FIVE ON THE STATE FAIR SIDE OR ONLINE AT APPROVEDBYJOEDOTCOM.

(Anyone from central Iowa knows that voice.)

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Piroko 5 points ago +7 / -2

how does the Babylon 5 Bee stay in business when reality becomes satire

Docking fees, charity, and that time they scammed IPX with a Vorlon artifact.

And they don't pay the Narns very much.

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Piroko 0 points ago +1 / -1

you even said it above that you want it to be every kind of debauchery

No, I said it IS.

I'm gonna spell this out for you again:

Libertarianism as an ideology gives ZERO FUCKS about the community. It is an ideology that is 100% focused on the individual's exercise of liberty, in accord with John Stuart Mill's harm principle:

"The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others."

-John Stuart Mill

The community is a non-entity. Mill only cares about harm against one individual by another individual, either through will or negligence. It is an ideology that inherently ACCEPTS the tragedy of the commons. The distributed, theoretical harm to many through the commons is NOT harm.

Abortion is a thorny issue in a Mill framework because harm could go both ways. But pretty much everything else social conservatives get irritated about (gay marriage particularly) is perfectly kosher under Mill's harm principle.

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Piroko -1 points ago +1 / -2

represents a wholly unviable political philosophy

Maybe so, but I'm not the one trying to twist the definition into "liberty but only to do the things I approve of".

Which is my grievance with OP to begin with.

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Piroko -1 points ago +1 / -2

I'm not.

Well, you're not OP, and OP is with his "cultural libertarianism".

So don't step between OP and me when you have nothing to contribute to the argument I'm raising. My beef is with his choice of words.

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Piroko -2 points ago +1 / -3

You have no problem with moral wrongs, so long as those committing them are willing to tolerate the moral wrongs YOU want to engage in.

Yes.

That is literally the foundational principle of libertarianism.

So stop trying to steal our word.

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Piroko -1 points ago +2 / -3

Hillary Clinton and Tipper Gore

The only reason you think they're not on your side is because you're so fixated on abortion and gay marriage that the entirety of politics in your eyes becomes a left-right line between the degenerate and the virtuous.

From my perspective, the only difference between a social conservative and an authoritarian democrat is tax policy.

And I'm on the side of the social conservatives only because they don't want to tax me.

why so called "libertarians" should not be considered as allies

YES. Absolutely correct. We are not ideological allies. We're frenemies.

THE ONLY THINGS YOU AND I HAVE IN COMMON IS THAT WE BOTH WANT LOWER TAXES BY CUTTING SPENDING, WE BOTH WANT TO GET OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST, AND WE BOTH WANT TO BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

That's it.

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Piroko 1 point ago +3 / -2

cultural libertarianism

This is a bullshit term used by hypocritical conservatives trying to square the circle.

socially conservative policies

ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH LIBERTARIANISM.

There is nothing libertarian about social conservatism. You say you want to ban abortion and gay marriage. But it doesn't end there. It never ends there. You inevitably go Jack Fucking Thompson. You go after vidya, magic cards, D&D, and eventually even deffmetal.

THIRTY FUCKING YEARS I'VE LISTENED TO YOUR SIDE'S LIES. YOU KEEP TRYING TO WEASEL IN AND TAKE OUR LABEL BECAUSE YOU NEED OUR VOTES. BUT YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN WHAT WE BELIEVE IN AND WE WILL NEVER BE MORE THAN ALLIES OF CONVENIENCE.

I'm willing to side with social conservatives against FUCKING COMMUNISTS. But don't call yourselves libertarian, cuz anyone who wants to ban shit is no libertarian.

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Piroko -1 points ago +1 / -2

Hoppeans

The last two centuries have taught us two things:

That the Germans need to shut up about philosophy, and learn to chill the fuck out.

I'm blocking you now for a week because I'm done reading your self absorbed bullshit.

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Piroko 8 points ago +9 / -1

His main goals are to destroy, eat, and transform the Smurfs into gold.

So he's basically Matt Ward.

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Piroko -1 points ago +1 / -2

The same reasoning that you would use against drugs, or that Hoppe would use against homosexuality, is the same reasoning that was used against me and mine in the Satanic Panic.

I don't hate moralizing prigs.

But I fucking despise moralizing prigs who claim to be libertarians.

Because they're hypocrites.


Libertarianism fully realized produces an ugly world. But that's a foundational problem with the ideology, it's not something you can fix by being selective about the definition of liberty.

YOU need to discard the idea that you are a libertarian. You're not. And that's okay.

You're a Heinleinist, you believe that liberty comes with responsibility. The libertarian does not; libertarianism is detached from ANY civic responsibility or obligation to the community beyond tolerance.

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