You're just trying to explain "God creates consciousness" without the "God" part, genius.
Laughable! Your hate has blinded you to the reason I stated I made the post, (in fact you probably downvoted it lmfao) - the precise opposite of what you claim:
[to] bridge a long-standing gap that has been created between “religious understandings” and “scientific understandings” of the universe
I literally posted it here to inject some discussion of God and the divine into this place. I also posted it to c/Christianity to get the ideas of people who don’t just use their beliefs as a cudgel.
Just say it's God already, at least that's a valid argument.
Uhhh… yeah champ, that’s step one. Here comes the fun part: how does God manifest his will in the universe wrt consciousness arising from unconscious matter? Is your answer just “the breathe of God”? Well, that’s a good second step. Can you describe the way from here? I mean, if you cracked the Hard Problem you’d be a legend, not just some wastrel on a gamergate forum
Great answer, one of two id accept (the other being “I have no clue”) - any leads on the how of the matter? Aka the subject of the thread?
Where 👏 does 👏 consciousness 👏 come 👏 from 👏 then 👏 genius 👏
Just a little addendum to 4)
- they had a fully modeled and animated japanese male protagonist prior to 2020 and their decision to floydify him
Our bodies are composed of the same atoms and molecules as the sun. Why don't we make sunlight?!
The degree to which we understand nuclear processes and the degree to which we understand consciousness are literally multiple orders of magnitude off from each other.
Obviously no one needs to do anything. I posted a discussion piece though, you’d think some people would be up to actually discuss as opposed to just h8n
He doesn't need to elaborate on the conventionally accepted theory
What even is this “conventionally accepted theory”? No ones named one yet. One could imagine you’re referring to the theory of consciousness as an epiphenomena of the interaction of unconscious matter? Regardless of the specific one you identify, the point is that none of these are “conventionally accepted” - its known as the “Hard Problem” precisely because there is no conventionally accepted theory.
What account was it other than Cato? You should mark that one down as a sockpuppet of his
No (refuses to elaborate)
Lol
But seriously, have you got any thoughts on how consciousness arises from/in unconscious matter? I think people would be interested in that no matter their stance on panpsychism. It’s not called the Hard Problem for nothing.
but marshal artists apparently being trained to pick up on people approaching from behind gets nothing.
Sheldrake is literally the man responsible for scientifically validating “the sense of being stared at”.
https://www.sheldrake.org/research/sense-of-being-stared-at
bull, shit and match…crystals and shadow people and has no place…praise fetish sex
Dude…chill - whatever your problem is I don’t think it’s with panpsychism, Rupert sheldrake, or this video. I normally think of your comments as quite open minded - what’s got you upset here, beyond selectively choosing to define terms like fMRI?
(which it does not control and hasn't for over a decade)
The gall of these creatures
My understanding is that the “legacy domains” (kia2.win, conspiracies.win, ConsumeProduct.win, etc) operate with a different (older, and mostly deprecated afaik) code base, which says they’ll probably only get buggier and buggier as the “main” site is updated. I think the idea of communities running their own domains under the main one has kind of been abandoned by the admins
Do you or dom know who owns the kia2.win domain? The original thedonald.win domain seemingly went down because of internal conflicts between their mods, and consumeproduct’s unique domain was shut down by (iirc) cloudflare or the registrar or some company like that. All of which is to say, unless you know who runs that domain there’s no harm in switching to communities.win imo (and it works better)
The illusions you name are outgrowths of consciousness, how could you possibly comprehend any of them fully if you can’t understand their foundation?
By any chance was it The Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot? That book was hugely influential on my thinking on subjects like this, but it always seemed like a rather obscure book and theory in terms of how much it reached the world, so it would be quite cool if you had come across it too! Small world and all.
But yeah absolutely, the theory of the holographic universe is an excellent candidate to explain much of these “non-physical” phenomena we nonetheless observe the physical effects of, glad you brought it up
Panpsychism seems to be a better explanation of reality than the mainstream scientific paradigm of materialism
Panpsychism:
In the philosophy of mind, panpsychism (/pænˈsaɪkɪzəm/) is the view that the mind or a mind-like aspect is a fundamental and ubiquitous feature of reality.[1] It is also described as a theory that "the mind is a fundamental feature of the world which exists throughout the universe".
Materialism:
Materialism is a form of philosophical monism which holds that matter is the fundamental substance in nature, and that all things, including mental states and consciousness, are results of material interactions of material things. According to philosophical materialism, mind and consciousness are caused by physical processes, such as the neurochemistry of the human brain and nervous system, without which they cannot exist.
Obviously heavy concepts, not strictly “gamergate related”, but I think a beneficial discussion appropriate enough to take place here
Here’s another lecture on the idea and the accompanying description:
Where does consciousness come from? Most people have been taught that consciousness only originates in small lumps of grey matter, such as the brains of humans and possibly other higher species, while the rest of the universe is devoid of this quality. But how can some forms of matter possess consciousness while others do not? After all, our brains are composed of the same atoms and molecules as the rest of the universe. More and more philosophers are approaching the theory of panpsychism, which claims that all matter has some form of consciousness or mind.
The British biologist Rupert Sheldrake has long proposed similar ideas. In his book A new Science of Life (1981), he introduced his well-known theory of morphic resonance, which suggests that all self-regulating systems in nature, such as cells, plants, and animals, inherit a form of collective memory called the morphic field. Patterns of behavior and organization are influenced by similar past forms and experiences, creating a non-local transfer of information and memory across time and space, known as morphic resonance. In his bestselling book "The Science Delusion" (2012), Sheldrake addresses similar topics in the chapters "Is Nature Mechanical?" and "Is Matter Unconscious?»
In 2021, he published a paper in the Journal of Consciousness Studies titled "Is the Sun Conscious?" Sheldrake admits that even asking such a question seems utterly ignorant, even childish. However, he draws on numerous sources from different fields of science to support his ideas. He argues that it is certainly possible that self-organizing systems at all levels of complexity, including stars and galaxies, might have experience, awareness, or consciousness.
Such are the limits of graphical representation of (currently) invisible phenomena. I’m sure many in the past have reacted as incredulously as you towards the ideas of fields of electricity, magnetism, gravity, mass, and so on, yet that had no bearing on their truth
I think it’s incredibly telling that the hard sciences have practically stalled out in terms of advancement, only ever capable of spiraling deeper and deeper down their holes of “specialization”, while the polymaths, the true geniuses capable of bridging the gaps between these chasms seem to be so few and far between.
Rupert Sheldrake, if you haven’t heard of him, is unorthodox when it comes to the priesthood of science. A highly accomplished biochemist by training - but openly religious (Anglican upbringing) - he is one of the relative few in the scientific world who is capable of entertaining ideas without necessarily believing them which I think helps contribute to his ability to bridge these wide divides and come upon what could end up being the early markings of a paradigm shift (or even multiple).
The basic idea presented here is “panpsychism”, the idea that psyche, aka consciousness, exists in some form or another, infused throughout the entire universe. This would not only explain the “consciousness of degrees” that we observe in, for example, animals like dogs, whales, dolphins, elephants, etc (i.e. a more “limited” or different form of consciousness than our own) but also bridge a long-standing gap that has been created between “religious understandings” and “scientific understandings” of the universe, imo
Yeah I looked it up after writing that - it’s a bit of column A and a bit of column B:
She was made canonically female and light side aligned in a guide/companion book released in 2006, but with no name given
She was given the name as part of that book tie in to TOR in 2011 like you and the first guy mention
This is the worst part. They’ve retcon’d the heroes of two generations into queers.
I’m pretty sure the exile was canonically made female years before the mmo. I think in a comic book they made her a human female and gave her a name
Well-worded maxim, almost sounds like it comes from a Kennedy lol
is kind of badass
Lol, yeah apparently too many people thought like you so they’ve dumped that story and decided to pivot to “he’s a man-whore”. You gotta wonder where the dem strategists are at these days. Probably re-assigned to more important matters like getting as many ms13 members into America before the election as possible
Even if he is a bit too close with rabbi schmuley
The article explores the connections between Jeffrey Epstein, the Mega Group (a network of influential Jewish businessmen), and Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency. It suggests that Epstein's operations may have involved leveraging high-profile individuals for blackmail, potentially linked to Israeli interests. The author discusses how these relationships might intersect with broader geopolitical dynamics and the implications for power structures in the U.S. The piece raises questions about espionage, influence, and the darker aspects of elite networks.
You said: what are the links to israelis ChatGPT said:
ChatGPT The article highlights several connections between Jeffrey Epstein and Israeli individuals or entities, including:
Mega Group: A network of influential Jewish businessmen that Epstein was associated with, which is said to have ties to Israeli interests. Mossad: The suggestion that Epstein's activities may have involved espionage and blackmail, potentially serving Israeli intelligence objectives. Notable Figures: Mention of specific Israeli individuals who had relationships with Epstein, raising concerns about the implications of these connections for U.S.-Israel relations. Overall, the article implies that Epstein's operations could reflect a broader pattern of espionage and influence involving Israel.
You said: Please expand on all three of these subjects with specific details ChatGPT said:
ChatGPT Sure, here’s a more detailed exploration of those three subjects:
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Mega Group The Mega Group is a network of wealthy Jewish businessmen, many of whom have substantial influence in various industries, including finance and media. Key figures associated with this group include individuals like Les Wexner, the former CEO of L Brands, who had a close relationship with Epstein. The group is thought to facilitate connections and support for Israel, and Epstein's ties to this network suggest he was involved in fostering relationships that could benefit both his interests and those of the group.
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Mossad Mossad, Israel's national intelligence agency, is often linked to clandestine operations and espionage. The article posits that Epstein's alleged practices of blackmailing high-profile individuals could have been utilized to gather compromising information that might serve Israeli interests. The implication is that Epstein’s activities went beyond mere financial gain and could be connected to a broader espionage framework, potentially aimed at influencing political figures or gaining strategic advantages for Israel.
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Notable Figures The article mentions several Israeli figures who had connections to Epstein, including:
Ehud Barak: The former Prime Minister of Israel, who was seen visiting Epstein's properties and has faced scrutiny regarding his associations with Epstein. Ghislaine Maxwell: While British, her connections with Israel through her family and business interests have been noted, further intertwining the web of relationships around Epstein. These associations raise questions about the extent of influence and power dynamics at play, suggesting that Epstein’s network may have operated in ways that aligned with Israeli interests or goals.
Together, these elements paint a picture of a complex interplay between wealth, power, and espionage, with Epstein potentially acting as a conduit for interests that align with those of influential Israeli individuals and agencies.
Hope that helps! I look forward to your next carrier pigeon sometime next month!
I keep forgetting you’re one of those accounts and giving you far too much benefit of the doubt.