Totally agreed on Arkham Knight. I haven't played it since launch on PS4 but I remember the whole game waiting for it to "get good" and it never came.

Also Arkham Origins is good, I don't know why that games hated. I think people give too much allegiance to "this is the official studio and the other studios games are crappy imitations. It was like call of duty. Infinity ward was seen as the A team and Treyarch as the B team. For a short while it was "yeah whatever I guess it's fine, but when the next modern warfare comes out, that's when it will be the real one we want.

Then it got flipped once Black Ops became so popular and Infinity Ward was seen as the B team.

Same with Dark Souls 2 which is the one I think is the most interesting but was written off because it didnt have the main director as Dark Souls 1 and Demon Souls.

Well same with Origins. Because it wasn't rocksteady and didn't have Kevin Conroy or Mark Hamil it was dismissed. I don't care about the story, just the atmosphere and gameplay and so origins is excellent. It might even be a tad more fun than Arkham City, but it's pretty close either way. I certainly like the atmosphere better in Origins. It feels like Batman Returns how Christmasy it is.

Totally agreed on Arkham Knight. I haven't played it since launch on PS4 but I remember the whole game waiting for it to "get good" and it never came.

Also Arkham Origins is good, I don't know why that games hated. I think people give too much allegiance to "this is the official studio and the other studios games are crappy imitations. It was like call of duty. Infinity ward was seen as the A team and Treyarch as the B team. For a short while it was "yeah whatever I guess it's fine, but when the next modern warfare comes out, that's when it will be the real one we want.

Then it got flipped once Black Ops became so popular and Infinity Ward was seen as the B team.

Same with Dark Souls 2 which is the one I think is the most interesting but was written off because it wasn't the same studio as Dark Souls 1 and Demon Souls.

Well same with Origins. Because it wasn't rocksteady and didn't have Kevin Conroy or Mark Hamil it was dismissed. I don't care about the story, just the atmosphere and gameplay and so origins is excellent. It might even be a tad more fun than Arkham City, but it's pretty close either way. I certainly like the atmosphere better in Origins. It feels like Batman Returns how Christmasy it is.