The thing is, I haven't heard the US or Israel (like they'd be ALLOWED) launching any of the attacks from Gulf state bases.

You do realize the U.S. has had to bounce around all the way to Cyprus? Why do you think this is? Also, even ignoring the physical aspect of launch and re-fueling, you're also ignoring other logistics such as intelligence (radar, etc.). The Arab countries constantly say something while meaning another.

Plus at the end of this, I'm betting the Gilf states try to order MORE patriot air defence systems, laser and microwave drone defense [...]

Azerbaijan and other countries have been contemplating becoming more active in the conflict. Maybe that's the reason for this turn? I don't know, China and India aren't happy, and they are BRICS countries but they also realize the existential crisis.

Anyway, good luck to the Arab countries wanting more Patriot systems. They're useless without the missiles, which we don't make enough of within a given year, each intercept takes 2+ missiles (Israel sometimes launching 8 or 10), cost ~$4M per missile IIRC, and are useless against ballistics. They do well enough against super slow drones and cruise missiles though, and decoys.

BTW, I saw some footage of the "Iron Laser Beam" once. Not sure if that was real, but it seemed useless. All these anti-defense technologies are worthless until provably good. THAAD and the rest "mature" AD so far is pathetic; Israel knows first hand, and countries also have to re-think over-reliance with U.S. because they're not defended, Israel is, and stockpiles are re-distributed to Israel in times of crunch. South Korea also learning about this first-hand.

as they'll NEVER trust Iran again after this.

Saudi Arabia wanted Iran proverbially nuked off the face of the Earth but have been engaged in optics just like everyone else. Recently, Iran praised them for being so understanding and restrained despite Iran's attack on their U.S. assets, and it turned out within hours (4? 12? 24?) that an Israeli transponder hadn't been turned off, and landed in the kingdom... There has never been "trust" or whatever you think with Iran of all countries. They, the Houthis, and Hezbollah are utterly despised by Arabs.

The thing is, I haven't heard the US or Israel (like they'd be ALLOWED) launching any of the attacks from Gulf state bases.

You do realize the U.S. has had to bounce around all the way to Cyprus? Why do you think this is? Also, even ignoring the physical aspect of launch and re-fueling, you're also ignoring other logistics such as intelligence (radar, etc.). The Arab countries constantly say something while meaning another.

Plus at the end of this, I'm betting the Gilf states try to order MORE patriot air defence systems, laser and microwave drone defense [...]

Azerbaijan and other countries have been contemplating becoming more active in the conflict. Maybe that's the reason for this turn? I don't know, China and India aren't happy, and they are BRICS countries but they also realize the existential crisis.

Anyway, good luck to the Arab countries wanting more Patriot systems. They're useless without the missiles, which we don't make enough of within a given year, each intercept takes 2+ missiles (Israel sometimes launching 8 or 10), cost ~$4M per missile IIRC, and are useless against ballistics. They do well enough against super slow drones and cruise missiles though, and decoys.

BTW, I saw some footage of the "Iron Laser" once. Not sure if that was real, but it seemed useless. All these anti-defense technologies are worthless until provably good. THAAD and the rest "mature" AD so far is pathetic; Israel knows first hand, and countries also have to re-think over-reliance with U.S. because they're not defended, Israel is, and stockpiles are re-distributed to Israel in times of crunch. South Korea also learning about this first-hand.

as they'll NEVER trust Iran again after this.

Saudi Arabia wanted Iran proverbially nuked off the face of the Earth but have been engaged in optics just like everyone else. Recently, Iran praised them for being so understanding and restrained despite Iran's attack on their U.S. assets, and it turned out within hours (4? 12? 24?) that an Israeli transponder hadn't been turned off, and landed in the kingdom... There has never been "trust" or whatever you think with Iran of all countries. They, the Houthis, and Hezbollah are utterly despised by Arabs.