Dude, I'm 33 and never going to get married. I decided no way. Marriage as it is today, men have zero rights. It's not the Biblical marriage.

Even back in the day when I once entertained the idea that one day I might get married if the right woman came along, I was highly, highly uneasy about the idea because of all the MRA stuff I knew. How can you say that me as a Christian is trying to get you to subjegate yourself to the modern idea of marriage. Again, I've realized that my role in life is to stay single, something Jesus said, to the one who can handle it, they should be like a Eunech.

Paul also said "In my opinion it would be better to not be married, because the end is near and a husband is partially devoted to his wife, while an unmarried man can be fully devoted to God".

I've never encouraged anyone to get married. I've only ever said that marriage in the modern day is essentially slavery (when you have no rights regarding your offspring, your finances, what happens in divorce, no way to correct your wifes behavior without the government labelling you an abuser and threatening you with prison, then it's essentially being held at ransom) and that I wouldn't risk it unless you really felt God calling you to do it, and you're sure it's God and not just endorphins and emotions. And even then, though this would give you zero protection and actually be depriving you of financial government benefits, I personally would not be married by the state, but would be married by the church as a symbol that if the marriage works it's because God has blessed the union, not the state out of my utter contempt for the modern day twisted version of marriage.

Marriage in 1700s, not a problem. Today's bastardization of marriage is not at all marriage. I personally don't believe the state should have ever been involved in marriage in the first place.

When I see people like Matt Walsh, a Catholic, say "You're not a real man unless you're married" I go huh....I guess he thinks Paul isn't a real man, or Jesus.

Btw, what I did just now, because I promised not to proselytyze, was not proselytyzing. I was just pointing out how I have zero agenda to get anyone to marry and have consciously decided to not get married because of many factors; the state of modern women, the laws of today bastardizing the concept of marriage, my own personal disposition and inflexibiltty, financial reasons, and personal convictions, etc etc etc.

The point is, why do you think that everyone who is traditional minded is primarily about getting men into marriage when people like myself are never going to get married?

I've put it this way. I'd be inclined to marry a woman....if women existed.

They used to exist, back before modern inventions and feminism utterly poisoned them and turned them into something utterly unappealing to spend a life with.

I agree that a good chunk of Conservatives are doing that "You're Peter Pan, grow up" in order to get men to marry and many are unkowingingly doing this on behalf of women and feminist interests because women realize men see how terrible they've become in the modern age so they use guilt and shaming tactics to try to bully men into marriage despite the utter lack of reason to do so nowadays in the West in particular.

And I acknowledge that there's a lot of crossover here with the Church....well most of the Church is Conservative and they're not above parroting bad talking points from the general Conservative side/right.

But name one single time in my proselytation that I encouraged you to get married or to put women on a pedestal? I encouraged you to place your faith and trust in Jesus. Not one place in the Bible does it say getting married is necessary for salvation, and in fact in several places it says that if you can handle being single, there are real benefits to being that way.

I'm essentially the Biblical equivalent of MGTOW.

Dude, I'm 33 and never going to get married. I decided no way. Marriage as it is today, men have zero rights. It's not the Biblical marriage.

Even back in the day when I once entertained the idea that one day I might get married if the right woman came along, I was highly, highly uneasy about the idea because of all the MRA stuff I knew. How can you say that me as a Christian is trying to get you to subjegate yourself to the modern idea of marriage. Again, I've realized that my role in life is to stay single, something Jesus said, to the one who can handle it, they should be like a Eunech.

Paul also said "In my opinion it would be better to not be married, because the end is near and a husband is partially devoted to his wife, while an unmarried man can be fully devoted to God".

I've never encouraged anyone to get married. I've only ever said that marriage in the modern day is essentially slavery (when you have no rights regarding your offspring, your finances, what happens in divorce, no way to correct your wifes behavior without the government labelling you an abuser and threatening you with prison, then it's essentially being held at ransom) and that I wouldn't risk it unless you really felt God calling you to do it, and you're sure it's God and not just endorphins and emotions. And even then, though this would give you zero protection and actually be depriving you of financial government benefits, I personally would not be married by the state, but would be married by the church as a symbol that if the marriage works it's because God has blessed the union, not the state out of my utter contempt for the modern day twisted version of marriage.

Marriage in 1700s, not a problem. Today's bastardization of marriage is not at all marriage. I personally don't believe the state should have ever been involved in marriage in the first place.

When I see people like Matt Walsh, a Catholic, say "You're not a real man unless you're married" I go huh....I guess he thinks Paul isn't a real man, or Jesus.

Btw, what I did just now, because I promised not to proselytyze, was not proselytyzing. I was just pointing out how I have zero agenda to get anyone to marry and have consciously decided to not get married because of many factors; the state of modern women, the laws of today bastardizing the concept of marriage, my own personal disposition and inflexibiltty, financial reasons, and personal convictions, etc etc etc.

The point is, why do you think that everyone who is traditional minded is primarily about getting men into marriage when people like myself are never going to get married?

I've put it this way. I'd be inclined to marry a woman....if women existed.

They used to exist, back before modern inventions and feminism utterly poisoned them and turned them into something utterly unappealing to spend a life with.

I agree that a good chunk of Conservatives are doing that "You're Peter Pan, grow up" in order to get men to marry and many are unkowingingly doing this on behalf of women and feminist interests because women realize men see how terrible they've become in the modern age so they use guilt and shaming tactics to try to bully men into marriage despite the utter lack of reason to do so nowadays in the West in particular.

And I acknowledge that there's a lot of crossover here with the Church....well most of the Church is Conservative and they're not above parroting bad talking points from the general Conservative side/right.

But name one single time in my proselytation that I encouraged you to get married or to put women on a pedestal? I encouraged you to place your faith and trust in Jesus. Not one place in the Bible does it say getting marriage is necessary for salvation, and in fact in several places it says that if you can handle being single, there are real benefits to being that way.

I'm essentially the Biblical equivalent of MGTOW.

Dude, I'm 33 and never going to get married. I decided no way. Marriage as it is today, men have zero rights. It's not the Biblical marriage.

Even back in the day when I once entertained the idea that one day I might get married if the right woman came along, I was highly, highly uneasy about the idea because of all the MRA stuff I knew. How can you say that me as a Christian is trying to get you to subjegate yourself to the modern idea of marriage. Again, I've realized that my role in life is to stay single, something Jesus said, to the one who can handle it, they should be like a Eunech.

Paul also said "In my opinion it would be better to not be married, because the end is near and a husband is partially devoted to his wife, while an unmarried man can be fully devoted to God".

I've never encouraged anyone to get married. I've only ever said that marriage in the modern day is essentially slavery (when you have no rights regarding your offspring, your finances, what happens in divorce, no way to correct your wifes behavior without the government labelling you an abuser and threatening you with prison, then it's essentially being held at ransom) and that I wouldn't risk it unless you really felt God calling you to do it, and you're sure it's God and not just endorphins and emotions. And even then, though this would give you zero protection and actually be depriving you of financial government benefits, I personally would not be married by the state, but would be married by the church as a symbol that if the marriage works it's because God has blessed the union, not the state out of my utter contempt for the modern day twisted version of marriage.

Marriage in 1700s, not a problem. Today's bastardization of marriage is not at all marriage. I personally don't believe the state should have ever been involved in marriage in the first place.

When I see people like Matt Walsh, a Catholic, say "You're not a real man unless you're married" I go huh....I guess he thinks Paul isn't a real man, or Jesus.

Btw, what I did just now, because I promised not to proselytyze, was not proselytyzing. I was just pointing out how I have zero agenda to get anyone to marry and have consciously decided to not get married because of many factors; the state of modern women, the laws of today bastardizing the concept of marriage, my own personal disposition and inflexibiltty, financial reasons, and personal convictions, etc etc etc.

The point is, why do you think that everyone who is traditional minded is primarily about getting men into marriage when people like myself are never going to get married?

I've put it this way. I'd be inclined to marry a woman....if women existed.

They used to exist, back before modern inventions and feminism utterly poisoned them and turned them into something utterly unappealing to spend a life with.

I agree that some Conservatives are doing that "You're Peter Pan, grow up" in order to get men to marry and many are unkowingingly doing this on behalf of women and feminist interests because women realize men see how terrible they've become in the modern age so they use guilt and shaming tactics to try to bully men into marriage despite the utter lack of reason to do so nowadays in the West in particular.

And I acknowledge that there's a lot of crossover here with the church....well most of the church is Conservative and they're not above parroting bad talking points from the general Conservative side/right.

But name one single time in my proselytation that I encouraged you to get married or to put women on a pedestal? I encouraged you to place your faith and trust in Jesus. Not one place in the Bible does it say getting marriage is necessary for salvation, and in fact in several places it says that if you can handle being single, there are real benefits to being that way.

I'm essentially the Biblical equivalent of MGTOW.

Dude, I'm 33 and never going to get married. I decided no way. Marriage as it is today, men have zero rights. It's not the Biblical marriage.

Even back in the day when I once entertained the idea that one day I might get married if the right woman came along, I was highly, highly uneasy about the idea because of all the MRA stuff I knew. How can you say that me as a Christian is trying to get you to subjegate yourself to the modern idea of marriage. Again, I've realized that my role in life is to stay single, something Jesus said, to the one who can handle it, they should be like a Eunech.

Paul also said "In my opinion it would be better to not be married, because the end is near and a husband is partially devoted to his wife, while an unmarried man can be fully devoted to God".

I've never encouraged anyone to get married. I've only ever said that marriage in the modern day is essentially slavery (when you have no rights regarding your offspring, your finances, what happens in divorce, then it's essentially being held at ransom) and that I wouldn't risk it unless you really felt God calling you to do it, and you're sure it's God and not just endorphins and emotions. And even then, though this would give you zero protection and actually be depriving you of financial government benefits, I personally would not be married by the state, but would be married by the church as a symbol that if the marriage works it's because God has blessed the union, not the state out of my utter contempt for the modern day twisted version of marriage.

Marriage in 1700s, not a problem. Today's bastardization of marriage is not at all marriage. I personally don't believe the state should have ever been involved in marriage in the first place.

When I see people like Matt Walsh, a Catholic, say "You're not a real man unless you're married" I go huh....I guess he thinks Paul isn't a real man, or Jesus.

Btw, what I did just now, because I promised not to proselytyze, was not proselytyzing. I was just pointing out how I have zero agenda to get anyone to marry and have consciously decided to not get married because of many factors, the state of modern women, the laws of today bastardizing the concept of marriage, my own personal disposition and inflexibiltty, financial reasons, and personal convictions, etc etc etc.

The point is, how can you that everyone who is traditional minded is about getting men into marriage?

I've put it this way. I'd be inclined to marry a woman....if women existed.

They used to exist, back before modern inventions and feminism utterly poisoned them and turned them into something utterly unappealing to spend a life with.

I agree that some Conservatives are doing that "You're Peter Pan, grow up" in order to get men to marry and many are unkowingingly doing this on behalf of women and feminist interests because women realize men see how terrible they've become in the modern age.

And I acknowledge that there's a lot of crossover here with the church....well most of the church is Conservative and they're not above parroting bad talking points from the general right.

But name one single time in my proselytation that I encouraged you to get married or to put women on a pedestal? I encouraged you to place your faith and trust in Jesus. Not one place in the Bible does it say getting marriage is necessary for salvation, and in fact in several places it says that if you can handle being single, there are real benefits to being that way.

I'm essentially the Biblical equivalent of MGTOW.

Dude, I'm 33 and never going to get married. I decided no way. Marriage as it is today, men have zero rights. It's not the Biblical marriage.

Even back in the day when I once entertained the idea that one day I might get married if the right woman came along, I was highly, highly uneasy about the idea because of all the MRA stuff I knew. How can you say that me as a Christian is trying to get you to subjegate yourself to the modern idea of marriage. Again, I've realized that my role in life is to stay single, something Jesus said, to the one who can handle it, they should be like a Eunech.

Paul also said "In my opinion it would be better to not be married, because the end is near and a husband is partially devoted to his wife, while an unmarried man can be fully devoted to God".

I've never encouraged anyone to get married. I've only ever said that marriage in the modern day is essentially slavery (when you have no rights regarding your offspring, your finances, what happens in divorce, then it's essentially being held at ransom) and that I wouldn't risk it unless you really felt God calling you to do it, and you're sure it's God and not just endorphins and emotions.

Marriage in 1700s, not a problem. Today's bastardization of marriage is not at all marriage. I personally don't believe the state should have ever been involved in marriage in the first place.

When I see people like Matt Walsh, a Catholic, say "You're not a real man unless you're married" I go huh....I guess he thinks Paul isn't a real man, or Jesus.

Btw, what I did just now, because I promised not to proselytyze, was not proselytyzing. I was just pointing out how I have zero agenda to get anyone to marry and have consciously decided to not get married because of many factors, the state of modern women, the laws of today bastardizing the concept of marriage, my own personal disposition and inflexibiltty, financial reasons, and personal convictions, etc etc etc.

The point is, how can you that everyone who is traditional minded is about getting men into marriage?

I've put it this way. I'd be inclined to marry a woman....if women existed.

They used to exist, back before modern inventions and feminism utterly poisoned them and turned them into something utterly unappealing to spend a life with.

I agree that some Conservatives are doing that "You're Peter Pan, grow up" in order to get men to marry and many are unkowingingly doing this on behalf of women and feminist interests because women realize men see how terrible they've become in the modern age.

And I acknowledge that there's a lot of crossover here with the church....well most of the church is Conservative and they're not above parroting bad talking points from the general right.

But name one single time in my proselytation that I encouraged you to get married or to put women on a pedestal? I encouraged you to place your faith and trust in Jesus. Not one place in the Bible does it say getting marriage is necessary for salvation, and in fact in several places it says that if you can handle being single, there are real benefits to being that way.

I'm essentially the Biblical equivalent of MGTOW.

Dude, I'm 33 and never going to get married. I decided no way. Marriage as it is today, men have zero rights. It's not the Biblical marriage.

Even when I once entertained the idea that one day I'd get married if the right woman came along, I was highly, highly nervous of the idea because of all the MRA thing. How can you say that me as a Christian is trying to get you to subjegate yourself to the modern idea of marriage. Again, I've realized that my role in life is to stay single, something Jesus said, to the one who can handle it, they should be like a Eunech.

Paul also said "In my opinion it would be better to not be married, because the end is near and a husband is partially devoted to his wife, while an unmarried man can be fully devoted to God".

I've never encouraged anyone to get married. I've only ever said that marriage in the modern day is essentially slavery (when you have no rights regarding your offspring, your finances, what happens in divorce, then it's essentially being held at ransom).

Marriage in 1700s, not a problem. Today's bastardization of marriage is not at all marriage. I personally don't believe the state should have ever been involved in marriage in the first place.

When I see people like Matt Walsh, a Catholic, say "You're not a real man unless you're married" I go huh....I guess he thinks Paul isn't a real man, or Jesus.

Btw, what I did just now, because I promised not to proselytyze, was not proselytyzing. I was just pointing out how I have zero agenda to get anyone to marry and have consciously decided to not get married because of many factors, the state of modern women, the laws of today bastardizing the concept of marriage, my own personal disposition and inflexibiltty, financial reasons, and personal convictions, etc etc etc.

The point is, how can you that everyone who is traditional minded is about getting men into marriage?

I've put it this way. I'd be inclined to marry a woman....if women existed.

They used to exist, back before modern inventions and feminism utterly poisoned them and turned them into something utterly unappealing to spend a life with.

I agree that some Conservatives are doing that "You're Peter Pan, grow up" in order to get men to marry and many are unkowingingly doing this on behalf of women and feminist interests because women realize men see how terrible they've become in the modern age.

And I acknowledge that there's a lot of crossover here with the church....well most of the church is Conservative and they're not above parroting bad talking points.

But name one single time in my proselytation that I encouraged you to get married or to put women on a pedestal? I encouraged you to place your faith and trust in Jesus. Not one place in the Bible does it say getting marriage is necessary for salvation, and in fact in several places it says that if you can handle being single, there are real benefits to being that way.

I'm essentially the Biblical equivalent of MGTOW.