I still don't know what to make of the guy, genuinely may be a fed. But I do think he is a talented orator, I think people are saying it a lot lately because he's been going viral lately. I think he's above average intelligence, especially in verbal intelligence.

But charisma doesn't equal genius in general. I can't stand Obama, but I think he was extremely charismatic. He seems to have lost in his later years, but young Obama was dangerous for a reason.

Edit- Oh and I agree somewhat of your assessment in him, the virgin at 26, with no interest in dating bit for someone who is supposed to be a Catholic is weird to me. His explanation for it on the recent Sam Hyde interview came off weird to me, said casual sex was better than marriage? This is the hardcore right winger? He talked about being able to do more damage single and then not being able to control him, which honestly is true, but I still think it's weird.

The gay stuff idk, when you add it to the no gf thing it looks bad, but at the same time there is no doubt that there's been a heavy campaign to destroy him for years and there's a reason none of the gay stuff has really stuck I'd assume. Afaik none of it was incontrovertible or anything.

I still don't know what to make of the guy, genuinely may be a fed. But I do think he is a talented orator, I think people are saying it a lot lately because he's been going viral lately. I think he's above average intelligence, especially in verbal intelligence.

But charisma doesn't equal genius in general. I can't stand Obama, but I think he was extremely charismatic. He seems to have lost in his later years, but young Obama was dangerous for a reason.