They even removed one of the Ten Commandments.

What? We removed nothing. No commandments, and no books of The Bible ;-)

There are 13 or so imperative (command) statements in exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5. The Catholics (and some mainline prots from my understanding) draw more from Deuteronomy. The numbering of the verses of The Bible is new remember, the verses weren't distinct the way they are now, so with 13 apparent command statements, you'll need to find some way decide which belong together to make 10. If you want to rely on sola scriptura instead of the church fathers and tradition for this, then go ahead (because it's not a matter of dogma I don't think), go decide for yourself how those should be organised, without reference to any other list or tradition, which should be grouped together. Particularly without the verse numbering. Read it and see for yourself.

They even removed one of the Ten Commandments.

"Thou shalt not bow before any graven image" or however it goes.

No, in the catholic understanding it is all a part of the first commandment, from Deuteronomy5:6-10. It's not removed, it's merged in and counted as a part of that. Same as how you 'removed' lusting and coveting someone's wife. You merged it into your 10th, under all covetousness, for property too.

Then they split the tenth into two--"thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house" and "thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's possessions"--to bring the total back to ten.

No, it's wife and possessions. If we're numbering and ordering these to create a list of 10, wife and possessions seem a bit different to me, different sins, and following from the 6th and 7th commandments to not steal and not commit adultery, the 9th and 10th are to not even be envious or have lust for those things. They're seperate in the 6th and 7th, makes sense to be seperate in the 9th and 10th too to me. If it were house vs possessions, you might have a point and it would look like two very closely related things had been separated into two commandments. But no, the wife and possessions are quite distinct in my view. I think the Lutherans do it that way, with them separating out house and possessions. Seems weird, I agree. But if you take issue with them doing that, that's not us, go take it up with Luthor (who at least also put the idolatry in as part of the first commandment btw)

But also, it's not dogma, nothing is 'set in stone' on this as it were (heh). The other methods of listing them can be valid. It's more just the shorthand way we teach and memorise it.

Oh and it's 'murder', not 'kill'. Why did you change that?

They even removed one of the Ten Commandments.

What? We removed nothing. No commandments, and no books of The Bible ;-)

There are 13 or so imperative (command) statements in exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5. The Catholics (and some mainline prots from my understanding) draw more from Deuteronomy. The numbering of the verses of The Bible is new remember, the verses weren't distinct the way they are now, so with 13 apparent command statements, you'll need to find some way decide which belong together to make 10. If you want to rely on sola scriptura instead of the church fathers and tradition for this, then go ahead (because it's not a matter of dogma I don't think), go decide for yourself how those should be organised, without reference to any other list or tradition, which should be grouped together. Particularly without the verse numbering. Read it and see for yourself.

They even removed one of the Ten Commandments.

"Thou shalt not bow before any graven image" or however it goes.

No, in the catholic understanding it is all a part of the first commandment, from Deuteronomy 6-10. It's not removed, it's merged in and counted as a part of that. Same as how you 'removed' lusting and coveting someone's wife. You merged it into your 10th, under all covetousness, for property too.

Then they split the tenth into two--"thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house" and "thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's possessions"--to bring the total back to ten.

No, it's wife and possessions. If we're numbering and ordering these to create a list of 10, wife and possessions seem a bit different to me, different sins, and following from the 6th and 7th commandments to not steal and not commit adultery, the 9th and 10th are to not even be envious or have lust for those things. They're seperate in the 6th and 7th, makes sense to be seperate in the 9th and 10th too to me. If it were house vs possessions, you might have a point and it would look like two very closely related things had been separated into two commandments. But no, the wife and possessions are quite distinct in my view. I think the Lutherans do it that way, with them separating out house and possessions. Seems weird, I agree. But if you take issue with them doing that, that's not us, go take it up with Luthor (who at least also put the idolatry in as part of the first commandment btw)

But also, it's not dogma, nothing is 'set in stone' on this as it were (heh). The other methods of listing them can be valid. It's more just the shorthand way we teach and memorise it.

Oh and it's 'murder', not 'kill'. Why did you change that?

They even removed one of the Ten Commandments.

What? We removed nothing. No commandments, and no books of The Bible ;-)

There are 13 or so imperative (command) statements in exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5. The Catholics (and some mainline prots from my understanding) draw more from Deuteronomy. The numbering of the verses of The Bible is new remember, the verses weren't distinct the way they are now, so with 13 apparent command statements, you'll need to find some way decide which belong together to make 10. If you want to rely on sola scriptura instead of the church fathers and tradition for this, then go ahead (because it's not a matter of dogma I don't think), go decide for yourself how those should be organised, without reference to any other list or tradition, which should be grouped together. Particularly without the verse numbering. Read it and see for yourself.

They even removed one of the Ten Commandments.

"Thou shalt not bow before any graven image" or however it goes.

No, in the catholic understanding it is all a part of the first commandment, from Deuteronomy 6-10. It's not removed, it's merged. Same as how you 'removed' lusting and coveting someone's wife. You merged it into your 10th, under all covetousness, for property too.

Then they split the tenth into two--"thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house" and "thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's possessions"--to bring the total back to ten.

No, it's wife and possessions. If we're numbering and ordering these to create a list of 10, wife and possessions seem a bit different to me, different sins, and following from the 6th and 7th commandments to not steal and not commit adultery, the 9th and 10th are to not even be envious or have lust for those things. They're seperate in the 6th and 7th, makes sense to be seperate in the 9th and 10th too to me. If it were house vs possessions, you might have a point and it would look like two very closely related things had been separated into two commandments. But no, the wife and possessions are quite distinct in my view. I think the Lutherans do it that way, with them separating out house and possessions. Seems weird, I agree. But if you take issue with them doing that, that's not us, go take it up with Luthor (who at least also put the idolatry in as part of the first commandment btw)

But also, it's not dogma, nothing is 'set in stone' on this as it were (heh). The other methods of listing them can be valid. It's more just the way we teach and memorise it.

Oh and it's 'murder', not 'kill'. Why did you change that?

They even removed one of the Ten Commandments.

What? We removed nothing. No commandments, and no books of The Bible ;-)

There are 13 or so imperative (command) statements in exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5. The Catholics (and some mainline prots from my understanding) draw more from Deuteronomy. The numbering of the verses of The Bible is new remember, the verses weren't distinct the way they are now, so with 13 apparent command statements, you'll need to find some way decide which belong together to make 10. If you want to rely on sola scriptura instead of the church fathers and tradition for this, then go ahead (because it's not a matter of dogma I don't think), go decide for yourself how those should be organised, without reference to any other list or tradition, which should be grouped together. Particularly without the verse numbering. Read it and see for yourself.

They even removed one of the Ten Commandments.

"Thou shalt not bow before any graven image" or however it goes.

No, in the catholic understanding it is all a part of the first commandment, from Deuteronomy 6-10. It's not removed, it's merged. Same as how you 'removed' lusting and coveting someone's wife. You merged it into your 10th, under all covetousness, for property too.

Then they split the tenth into two--"thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house" and "thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's possessions"--to bring the total back to ten.

No, it's wife and possessions. If we're numbering and ordering these to create a list of 10, wife and possessions seem a bit different to me, different sins, and following from the 6th and 7th commandments to not steal and not commit adultery, the 9th and 10th are to not even be envious or have lust for those things. They're seperate in the 6th and 7th, makes sense to be seperate in the 9th and 10th too to me. If it were house vs possessions, you might have a point and it would look like two very closely related things had been separated into two commandments. But no, the wife and possessions are quite distinct in my view. I think the Lutherans do it that way, with them separating out house and possessions. Seems weird, I agree. But if you take issue with them doing that, that's not us, go take it up with Luthor (who also put the idolatry in as part of the first commandment btw)

But also, it's not dogma, nothing is 'set in stone' on this as it were (heh). The other methods of listing them can be valid. It's more just the way we teach and memorise it.

Oh and it's 'murder', not 'kill'. Why did you change that?

They even removed one of the Ten Commandments.

What? We removed nothing. No commandments, and no books of The Bible ;-)

There are 13 or so imperative (command) statements in exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5. The Catholics (and some mainline prots from my understanding) draw more from Deuteronomy. The numbering of the verses of The Bible is new remember, the verses weren't distinct the way they are now, so with 13 apparent command statements, you'll need to find some way decide which belong together to make 10. If you want to rely on sola scriptura instead of the church fathers and tradition for this, then go ahead (because it's not a matter of dogma I don't think), go decide for yourself how those should be organised, without reference to any other list or tradition, which should be grouped together. Particularly without the verse numbering. Read it and see for yourself.

They even removed one of the Ten Commandments.

"Thou shalt not bow before any graven image" or however it goes.

No, in the catholic understanding it is all a part of the first commandment, from Deuteronomy 6-10. It's not removed, it's merged. Same as how you 'removed' lusting and coveting someone's wife. You merged it into your 10th, under all covetousness, for property too.

Then they split the tenth into two--"thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house" and "thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's possessions"--to bring the total back to ten.

No, it's wife and possessions. If we're numbering and ordering these to create a list of 10, wife and possessions seem a bit different to me, different sins, and following from the 6th and 7th commandments to not steal and not commit adultery, the 9th and 10th are to not even be envious or have lust for those things. They're seperate in the 6th and 7th, makes sense to be seperate in the 9th and 10th too to me. If it were house vs possessions, you might have a point and it would look like two very closely related things had been separated into two commandments. But no, the wife and possessions are quite distinct in my view. I think the Lutherans do it that way separating out house and possessions? Seems weird, I agree.

But also, it's not dogma, nothing is 'set in stone' on this as it were (heh). The other methods of listing them can be valid. It's more just the way we teach and memorise it.

Oh and it's 'murder', not 'kill'. Why did you change that?

They even removed one of the Ten Commandments.

What? We removed nothing. No commandments, and no books of The Bible ;-)

There are 13 or so imperative (command) statements in exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5. The Catholics (and some mainline prots from my understanding) draw more from Deuteronomy. The numbering of the verses of The Bible is new remember, the verses weren't distinct the way they are now, so with 13 apparent command statements, you'll need to find some way decide which belong together to make 10. If you want to rely on sola scriptura instead of the church fathers and tradition for this, then go ahead (because it's not a matter of dogma I don't think), go decide for yourself how those should be organised, without reference to any other list or tradition, which should be grouped together. Particularly without the verse numbering. Read it and see for yourself.

They even removed one of the Ten Commandments.

"Thou shalt not bow before any graven image" or however it goes.

No, in the catholic understanding it is all a part of the first commandment, from Deuteronomy 6-10. It's not removed, it's merged. Same as how you 'removed' lusting and coveting someone's wife. You merged it into your 10th, under all covetousness, for property too.

Then they split the tenth into two--"thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house" and "thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's possessions"--to bring the total back to ten.

No, it's wife and possessions. If we're numbering and ordering these to create a list of 10, wife and possessions seem a bit different to me, different sins, and following from the 6th and 7th commandments to not steal and not commit adultery, the 9th and 10th are to not even be envious or have lust for those things. They're seperate in the 6th and 7th, makes sense to be seperate in the 9th and 10th too to me. If it were house vs possessions, you might have a point and it would look like two very closely related things had been separated into two commandments. But no, the wife and possessions are quite distinct in my view. I think the Lutherans do it that way separating out house and possessions? Seems weird, I agree.

Oh and it's 'murder', not 'kill'. Why did you change that?

They even removed one of the Ten Commandments.

What? We removed nothing. No commandments, and no books of The Bible ;-)

There are 13 or so imperative (command) statements in exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5. The Catholics (and some mainline prots from my understanding) draw more from Deuteronomy. The numbering of the verses of The Bible is new remember, the verses weren't distinct the way they are now, so with 13 apparent command statements, you'll need to find some way decide which belong together to make 10. If you want to rely on sola scriptura instead of the church fathers and tradition for this, then go ahead (because it's not a matter of dogma I don't think), go decide for yourself how those should be organised, without reference to any other list or tradition, which should be grouped together. Particularly without the verse numbering. Read it and see for yourself.

They even removed one of the Ten Commandments.

"Thou shalt not bow before any graven image" or however it goes.

No, in the catholic understanding it is all a part of the first commandment, from Deuteronomy 6-10. It's not removed, it's merged. Same as how you 'removed' lusting and coveting someone's wife. You merged it into your 10th, under all covetousness, for property too.

Then they split the tenth into two--"thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house" and "thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's possessions"--to bring the total back to ten.

No, it's wife and possessions. If we're numbering and ordering these to create a list of 10, wife and possessions seem a bit different to me, different sins, and following from the 6th and 7th commandments to not steal and not commit adultery, the 9th and 10th are to not even be envious or have lust for those things. If it were house and possessions, you might have a point and it would look like two very closely related things had been separated into two commandments. But no, the wife and possessions are quite distinct in my view. I think the Lutherans do it that way separating out house and possessions? Seems weird, I agree.

Oh and it's 'murder', not 'kill'. Why did you change that?

They even removed one of the Ten Commandments.

What? We removed nothing. No commandments, and no books of The Bible ;-)

There are 13 or so imperative (command) statements in exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5. The Catholics (and some mainline prots from my understanding) draw more from Deuteronomy. The numbering of the verses of The Bible is new remember, the verses weren't distinct the way they are now, so with 13 apparent command statements, you'll need to find some way decide which belong together to make 10. If you want to rely on sola scriptura instead of the church fathers and tradition for this, then go ahead (because it's not a matter of dogma I don't think), go decide for yourself how those should be organised, without reference to any other list or tradition, which should be grouped together. Particularly without the verse numbering. Read it and see for yourself.

They even removed one of the Ten Commandments.

"Thou shalt not bow before any graven image" or however it goes.

No, in the catholic understanding it is all a part of the first commandment, from Deuteronomy 6-10. It's not removed, it's merged. Same as how you 'removed' lusting and coveting someone's wife. You merged it into your 10th, under all covetousness, for property too.

Then they split the tenth into two--"thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house" and "thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's possessions"--to bring the total back to ten.

No, it's wife and possessions. If we're numbering and ordering these to create a list of 10, wife and possessions seem a bit different to me, different sins, and following from the 6th and 7th commandments to not steal and not commit adultery, the 9th and 10th are to not even be envious or have lust for those things. If it were house and possessions, you might have a point. But no, they're quite distinct in my view. I think the Lutherans do it that way? Seems weird, I agree.

Oh and it's 'murder', not 'kill'. Why did you change that?

They even removed one of the Ten Commandments.

What? We removed nothing. No commandments, and no books of The Bible ;-)

There are 13 or so imperative (command) statements in exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5. The Catholics (and some mainline prots from my understanding) draw more from Deuteronomy. The numbering of the verses of The Bible is new remember, the verses weren't distinct the way they are now, so with 13 apparent command statements, you'll need to find some way decide which belong together. If you want to rely on sola scriptura instead of the church fathers and tradition for this, then go ahead (because it's not a matter of dogma I don't think), go decide for yourself how those should be organised, without reference to any other list or tradition, which should be grouped together. Particularly without the verse numbering. Read it and see for yourself.

They even removed one of the Ten Commandments.

"Thou shalt not bow before any graven image" or however it goes.

No, in the catholic understanding it is all a part of the first commandment, from Deuteronomy 6-10. It's not removed, it's merged. Same as how you 'removed' lusting and coveting someone's wife. You merged it into your 10th, under all covetousness, for property too.

Then they split the tenth into two--"thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house" and "thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's possessions"--to bring the total back to ten.

No, it's wife and possessions. If we're numbering and ordering these to create a list of 10, wife and possessions seem a bit different to me, different sins, and following from the 6th and 7th commandments to not steal and not commit adultery, the 9th and 10th are to not even be envious or have lust for those things. If it were house and possessions, you might have a point. But no, they're quite distinct in my view. I think the Lutherans do it that way? Seems weird, I agree.

Oh and it's 'murder', not 'kill'. Why did you change that?

They even removed one of the Ten Commandments.

What? We removed nothing. No commandments, and no books of The Bible ;-)

There are 13 or so imperative (command) statements in exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5. The Catholics (and mainline prots from my understanding) draw more from Deuteronomy. The numbering of the verses of The Bible is new remember, the verses weren't distinct the way they are now, so with 13 apparent command statements, you'll need to find some way decide which belong together. If you want to rely on sola scriptura instead of the church fathers and tradition for this, then go ahead (because it's not a matter of dogma), go decide for yourself how those should be organised, without reference to any other list or tradition, which should be grouped together. Particularly without the verse numbering. Read it and see for yourself.

They even removed one of the Ten Commandments.

"Thou shalt not bow before any graven image" or however it goes.

No, in the catholic understanding it is all a part of the first commandment, from Deuteronomy 6-10. It's not removed, it's merged. Same as how you 'removed' lusting and coveting someone's wife. You merged it into your 10th, under all covetousness, for property too.

Then they split the tenth into two--"thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house" and "thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's possessions"--to bring the total back to ten.

No, it's wife and possessions. If we're numbering and ordering these to create a list of 10, wife and possessions seem a bit different to me, different sins, and following from the 6th and 7th commandments to not steal and not commit adultery, the 9th and 10th are to not even be envious or have lust for those things. If it were house and possessions, you might have a point. But no, they're quite distinct in my view.

Oh and it's 'murder', not 'kill'. Why did you change that?

They even removed one of the Ten Commandments.

What? We removed nothing. No commandments, and no books of The Bible ;-)

There are 13 or so imperative (command) statements in exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5. The Catholics (and mainline prots from my understanding) draw more from Deuteronomy. The numbering of the verses of The Bible is new remember, the verses weren't distinct the way they are now, so with 13 apparent command statements, you'll need to find some way decide which belong together. If you want to rely on sola scriptura instead of the church fathers, then go ahead, decide for yourself how those should be organised, without reference to any other list or tradition, which should be grouped together.

They even removed one of the Ten Commandments.

"Thou shalt not bow before any graven image" or however it goes.

No, in the catholic understanding it is all a part of the first commandment, from Deuteronomy 6-10. It's not removed, it's merged. Same as how you 'removed' lust for someone's wife. You merged it into your 10th, under covetousness.

Then they split the tenth into two--"thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house" and "thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's possessions"--to bring the total back to ten.

No, it's wife and possessions. If we're numbering and ordering these to create a list of 10, wife and possessions seem a bit different to me, different sins, and following from the 6th and 7th commandments to not steal and not commit adultery, the 9th and 10th are to not even be envious or have lust for those things. If it were house and possessions, you might have a point. But no, they're quite distinct in my view.

Oh and it's 'murder', not 'kill'. Why did you change that?