Exactly, but even then, I'd say, it's considered progressive because people remember some of those stand out moments.

The half-black, half-white fight that was meant to be a "woah, racism is like stupid man....." and the interacial kiss.

There's like 30 episodes per season.

The majority of the show isn't left leaning or right leaning.

Including the messaging. Most of the time the messaging would be as simple as "having quiet wars where no cities get destroyed, but millions of people die is bad...war is supposed to be ugly which is why you try to avoid it". These "messages" weren't usually as much about pushing an agenda, as giving an intriquing conflict to figure out how to resolve where you have culture clash. And back then the good guys represented the values the typical American would have. Whereas TNG and later would be more "morality is grey and who are we to say their culture is wrong". Whereas Kirk and his team were more like, no....this is right, this is wrong, your society is stupid.

The aforementioned position on war being ugly by design would fall into the category of a common sense message that pretty much anyone would agree to. I think Sun Tzu would probably agree with that as a generally true statement even if you yourself are pro war.

90% of the show is apolitical, 9% a mix of ideas conservatives and liberals might debate on, and then a tiny, once in a while smattering of some, for the time, "progressive" (read subversive) moments that people remember and associate the show with that are actually few and far between.

So in that 90-99% of the time you're left with general writings and attitude of the time which is stuff that makes people with modern day sensibilities fall over into their fainting couches.

Exactly, but even then, I'd say, it's considered progressive because people remember some of those stand out moments.

The half-black, half-white fight that was meant to be a "woah, racism is like stupid man....." and the interacial kiss.

There's like 30 episodes per season.

The majority of the show isn't left leaning or right leaning.

Including the messaging. Most of the time the messaging would be as simple as "having quiet wars where no cities get destroyed, but millions of people die is bad...war is supposed to be ugly which is why you try to avoid it". These "messages" weren't usually as much about pushing an agenda, as giving an intriquing conflict to figure out how to resolve where you have culture clash. And back then the good guys represented the values the typical American would have. Whereas TNG and later would be more "morality is grey and who are we to say their culture is wrong". Whereas Kirk and his team were more like, no....this is right, this is wrong, your society is stupid.

The aforementioned position on war being ugly by design would fall into the category of a common sense message that pretty much anyone would agree to. I think Sun Tzu would probably agree with that as a generally true statement even if you yourself are pro war.

90% of the show is apolitical, 9% a mix of ideas conservatives and liberals might debate on, and then a tiny, once in a while smattering of some, for the time, "progressive" (read subversive) moments that people remember and associate the show with that are actually few and far between.

So in that 90-99% of the time you're left with general writings and attitude of the time which is stuff that makes people with modern day sensibilities fall over into their fainting couches

Exactly, but even then, I'd say, it's considered progressive because people remember some of those stand out moments.

The half-black, half-white fight that was meant to be a "woah, racism is like stupid man....." and the interacial kiss.

There's like 30 episodes per season.

The majority of the show isn't left leaning or right leaning.

Including the messaging. Most of the time the messaging would be as simple as "having quiet wars where no cities get destroyed, but millions of people die is bad...war is supposed to be ugly which is why you try to avoid it". These "messages" weren't usually as much about pushing an agenda, as giving an intriquing conflict to figure out how to resolve where you have culture clash. And back then the good guys represented the values the typical American would have. Whereas TNG and later would be more "morality is grey and who are we to say their culture is wrong". Whereas Kirk and his team were more like, no....this is right, this is wrong, your society is stupid.

The aforementioned position on war being ugly by design would fall into the category of a common sense message that pretty much anyone would agree to. I think Sun Tzu would probably agree with that as a generally true statement even if you yourself are pro war.

90% of the show is apolitical, 9% a mix of ideas conservatives and liberals might debate on, and then a tiny, once in a while smattering of some for the time "progressive" (read subversive) moments that people remember and associate the show with that are actually few and far between.

So in that 90-99% of the time you're left with general writings and attitude of the time which is stuff that makes people with modern day sensibilities fall with their hand pressed against their forehead into their fainting couches.

Exactly, but even then, I'd say, it's considered progressive because people remember some of those stand out moments.

The half-black, half-white fight that was meant to be a "woah, racism is like stupid man....." and the interacial kiss.

There's like 30 episodes per season.

The majority of the show isn't left leaning or right leaning.

Including the messaging. Sometimes the messaging would be as simple as "having quiet wars where no cities get destroyed, but millions of people die is bad...war is supposed to be ugly which is why you try to avoid it"

I think that's just a common sense message that pretty much anyone would agree to. I think Sun Tzu would probably agree with that as a generally true statement even if you yourself are pro war.

90% of the show is apolitical, 9% a mix of ideas conservatives and liberals might debate on, and then a tiny, once in a while smattering of some for the time "progressive" (read subversive) moments that people remember and associate the show with that are actually few and far between.

So in that 90-99% of the time you're left with general writings and attitude of the time which is stuff that makes people with modern day sensibilities fall with their hand pressed against their forehead into their fainting couches.