I thought Quakers were against predestination/calvinism

It's more that Calvinists are "THIS IS HOW IT IS" and we're more like "eh, maybe".

Islam is taking over so it must be God's will.

In the face of how liberalism is utterly destroying our ability to form families, yes, I do believe that they have something right that we have wrong.

You sound pessimistic.

For christianity, yes. For humanity, no.

Why not just say what you want to say?

What's there to say? We all know the west is a ruined experiment corrupted by the assumption that women are equal in reasoning and morality to men when they absolutely are not. We can find no precedent or even support in our cultural foundation to justify the actions needed to fix this problem.

Those before us failed in headship while creating a culture that condemns any attempt to take back headship.

I thought Quakers were against predestination/calvinism

It's more that Calvinists are "THIS IS HOW IT IS" and we're more like "eh, maybe".

Islam is taking over so it must be God's will.

In the face of how liberalism is utterly destroying our ability to form families, yes, I do believe that they have something right that we have wrong.

You sound pessimistic.

For christianity, yes. For humanity, no.

Why not just say what you want to say?

What's there to say? We all know the west is a ruined experiment corrupted by the assumption that women are equal in reasoning and morality to men when they absolutely are not. We can find no precedent or even support in our cultural foundation to justify the actions needed to fix this problem.

I thought Quakers were against predestination/calvinism

It's more that Calvinists are "THIS IS HOW IT IS" and we're more like "eh, maybe".

Islam is taking over so it must be God's will.

In the face of how liberalism is utterly destroying our ability to form families, yes, I do believe that they have something right that we have wrong.

You sound pessimistic.

For christianity, yes. For humanity, no.