On the one hand, it's a more understandable invasion, on the other hand it feels more immediate and threatening to outsiders.

Why though? They sure didn't feel "threatened" when Azerbaijan invaded Armenia, hell, they were funding its war machine.

This outrage, like every other outrage, is manufactured. I saw more images of civilian casualties in the first week of Russia 'Ukraine' than I did in 20 years of deep state wars.

The US does imperialism from afar, and has (sort of) good PR.

Yup. The whole 'western' propaganda apparatus is second to none... while persuading everyone that there is a 'Russian propagandist' under your bed.

Sure, but it's not the NPC normie argument. They're not whining that he's not expanding the corporate empire, they're whining about Fascism™ and Safety™. And the foot soldiers at least seem to actually believe it.

As you say, there's a real reason, and then there's the reason that's fed to the rabble. The problem is, people here really don't know anything about the US, so it's difficult to even begin to dismantle an entire edifice of preconceptions and propaganda.

Imagine if all you knew about America was what you saw on CNN. For decades. Never any personal experience, nor any contact with anyone who had personal experience.

When people have personal experience, that is a good antidote to propaganda. The same people who think that Trump is the worst scumbag in the world, also don't like immigration and are unafraid to say it to me (a colored).

They've consumed their own BS, and honestly believe the US is some despotic hellhole now, under Orange Fuhrer.

But that's true. I saw three American prosecutors talking and laughing about how they arrest and imprison people for posting 'insults' and 'offensive content' online. And then they laughed about how they take away people's phones, and that this is even worse than the other punishment, because "your whole life" is on your phone.

I'm also just hoping Europe doesn't go for the trifecta and start yet another world war.

Counting the Napoleonic Wars, we're already at 3.

On the one hand, it's a more understandable invasion, on the other hand it feels more immediate and threatening to outsiders.

Why though? They sure didn't feel "threatened" when Azerbaijan invaded Armenia, hell, they were funding its war machine.

This outrage, like every other outrage, is manufactured. I saw more images of civilian casualties in the first week of Russia 'Ukraine' than I did in 20 years of deep state wars.

The US does imperialism from afar, and has (sort of) good PR.

Yup. The whole 'western' propaganda apparatus is second to none... while persuading everyone that there is a 'Russian propagandist' under your bed.

Sure, but it's not the NPC normie argument. They're not whining that he's not expanding the corporate empire, they're whining about Fascism™ and Safety™. And the foot soldiers at least seem to actually believe it.

As you say, there's a real reason, and then there's the reason that's fed to the rabble. The problem is, people here really don't know anything about the US, so it's difficult to even begin to dismantle an entire edifice of preconceptions and propaganda.

Imagine if all you knew about America was what you saw on CNN. For decades. Never any personal experience, nor any contact with anyone who had personal experience.

When people have personal experience, that is a good antidote to propaganda. The same people who think that Trump is the worst scumbag in the world, also don't like immigrants and are unafraid to say it to me (a colored).

They've consumed their own BS, and honestly believe the US is some despotic hellhole now, under Orange Fuhrer.

But that's true. I saw three American prosecutors talking and laughing about how they arrest and imprison people for posting 'insults' and 'offensive content' online. And then they laughed about how they take away people's phones, and that this is even worse than the other punishment, because "your whole life" is on your phone.

I'm also just hoping Europe doesn't go for the trifecta and start yet another world war.

Counting the Napoleonic Wars, we're already at 3.