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and they've got a good quality military in all branches

I dont know if that would still apply today. Their combat infantry are certainly good and their Spec-Ops are some of the best in the world, as well as having good mechanized forces (the LAV III is the genetic basis for the Stryker after all, and the LAV 6 is a pretty nasty machine).

BUT

Running down the rest of the list:

Navy: They only have 4 submarines (older diesel-electric ones from the 1980's), and while their 12 frigates would be pretty nasty at close range they lack real stand off capability like the US Navy has. And from everything I have heard, they have been having so many issues with their new heavier frigate program that it makes US Naval procurement look streamlined.

Air Force: Their air force is in an infamous state of disrepair, with their mainline combat aircraft being the CF-18 Hornet, which are old first-gen F/A-18 Hornets they bought used from the Australians in 1982! They are in such a bad state of disrepair that they are having to cannibalize planes just to keep them flying, and even then less than half the fleet is capable of flying at any one time. On more than one occasion the US has had to send planes to intercept unknowns over their airspace because the Canadians literally didnt have anything capable of flying up and taking a look. They are in the lineup to get F-35's to replace them, but they are at the back of the list behind the likes of the Japanese, Polish, Australians, and about a dozen other countries. They would have gotten them first because they had been in the JSF program, but in 2015 Justin Trudeau (damnation be upon him!) pulled Canada out and tried to find another plane for their fleet because the F-35 was "too expensive". Then he started looking all over Europe for a new plane so he didnt have to use filthy American gear, found nothing, and went back to the F-35...at a markup now, because everyone and their dog wants one.

Army: Again, their mechanized infantry are absolutely a threat, since they have almost 700 of the LAV's I mentioned. But they are an extremely light army with only 74 tanks in service, with 2/3 of those being older model Leopard 2A4's, which while not necessarily outdated are very much long in the teeth at this point (they are contemporaries of the original model Abrams and Challenger 2). And at least from what I have heard, a lot of those tanks are also in a pretty bad state of disrepair and have difficulty staying in battle condition to actually fight. Plus, we get to the simple fact that even counting their reserves, the Canadian Army is only capable of raising 63,000 troops to actually fight. EDIT: upon further looking, they also only have 33 howitzers, which seems like a fairly significant gap in long range firepower.

With all of that said though, I do agree with your overall stance that the Canadian Military could very easily be swayed to team up with the US to fix Canada, as from what I have heard through my own sources (both family and reading) the Canadian military fucking despises Trudeau and anyone who believes like him, as they feel it is the Liberals who have left their military in such an embarrassing state.

1 year ago
1 score
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and they've got a good quality military in all branches

I dont know if that would still apply today. Their combat infantry are certainly good and their Spec-Ops are some of the best in the world, as well as having good mechanized forces (the LAV III is the genetic basis for the Stryker after all, and the LAV 6 is a pretty nasty machine).

BUT

Running down the rest of the list:

Navy: They only have 4 submarines (older diesel-electric ones from the 1980's), and while their 12 frigates would be pretty nasty at close range they lack real stand off capability like the US Navy has. And from everything I have heard, they have been having so many issues with their new heavier frigate program that it makes US Naval procurement look streamlined.

Air Force: Their air force is in an infamous state of disrepair, with their mainline combat aircraft being the CF-18 Hornet, which are old first-gen F/A-18 Hornets they bought used from the Australians in 1982! They are in such a bad state of disrepair that they are having to cannibalize planes just to keep them flying, and even then less than half the fleet is capable of flying at any one time. On more than one occasion the US has had to send planes to intercept unknowns over their airspace because the Canadians literally didnt have anything capable of flying up and taking a look. They are in the lineup to get F-35's to replace them, but they are at the back of the list behind the likes of the Japanese, Polish, Australians, and about a dozen other countries. They would have gotten them first because they had been in the JSF program, but in 2015 Justin Trudeau (damnation be upon him!) pulled Canada out and tried to find another plane for their fleet because the F-35 was "too expensive". Then he started looking all over Europe for a new plane so he didnt have to use filthy American gear, found nothing, and went back to the F-35...at a markup now, because everyone and their dog wants one.

Army: Again, their mechanized infantry are absolutely a threat, since they have almost 700 of the LAV's I mentioned. But they are an extremely light army with only 74 tanks in service, with 2/3 of those being older model Leopard 2A4's, which while not necessarily outdated are very much long in the teeth at this point (they are contemporaries of the original model Abrams and Challenger 2). And at least from what I have heard, a lot of those tanks are also in a pretty bad state of disrepair and have difficulty staying in battle condition to actually fight. Plus, we get to the simple fact that even counting their reserves, the Canadian Army is only capable of raising 63,000 troops to actually fight.

With all of that said though, I do agree with your overall stance that the Canadian Military could very easily be swayed to team up with the US to fix Canada, as from what I have heard through my own sources (both family and reading) the Canadian military fucking despises Trudeau and anyone who believes like him, as they feel it is the Liberals who have left their military in such an embarrassing state.

1 year ago
1 score
Reason: Original

and they've got a good quality military in all branches

I dont know if that would still apply today. Their combat infantry are certainly good and their Spe-Ops are some of the best in the world, as well as having good mechanized forces (the LAV III is the genetic basis for the Stryker after all, and the LAV 6 is a pretty nasty machine).

BUT

Running down the rest of the list:

Navy: They only have 4 submarines (older diesel-electric ones from the 1980's), and while their 12 frigates would be pretty nasty at close range they lack real stand off capability like the US Navy has. And from everything I have heard, they have been having so many issues with their new heavier frigate program that it makes US Naval procurement look streamlined.

Air Force: Their air force is in an infamous state of disrepair, with their mainline combat aircraft being the CF-18 Hornet, which are old first-gen F/A-18 Hornets they bought used from the Australians in 1982! They are in such a bad state of disrepair that they are having to cannibalize planes just to keep them flying, and even then less than half the fleet is capable of flying at any one time. On more than one occasion the US has had to send planes to intercept unknowns over their airspace because the Canadians literally didnt have anything capable of flying up and taking a look. They are in the lineup to get F-35's to replace them, but they are at the back of the list behind the likes of the Japanese, Polish, Australians, and about a dozen other countries. They would have gotten them first because they had been in the JSF program, but in 2015 Justin Trudeau (damnation be upon him!) pulled Canada out and tried to find another plane for their fleet because the F-35 was "too expensive". Then he started looking all over Europe for a new plane so he didnt have to use filthy American gear, found nothing, and went back to the F-35...at a markup now, because everyone and their dog wants one.

Army: Again, their mechanized infantry are absolutely a threat, since they have almost 700 of the LAV's I mentioned. But they are an extremely light army with only 74 tanks in service, with 2/3 of those being older model Leopard 2A4's, which while not necessarily outdated are very much long in the teeth at this point (they are contemporaries of the original model Abrams and Challenger 2). And at least from what I have heard, a lot of those tanks are also in a pretty bad state of disrepair and have difficulty staying in battle condition to actually fight. Plus, we get to the simple fact that even counting their reserves, the Canadian Army is only capable of raising 63,000 troops to actually fight.

With all of that said though, I do agree with your overall stance that the Canadian Military could very easily be swayed to team up with the US to fix Canada, as from what I have heard through my own sources (both family and reading) the Canadian military fucking despises Trudeau and anyone who believes like him, as they feel it is the Liberals who have left their military in such an embarrassing state.

1 year ago
1 score