Right. It was definitely Christianity and not its Roman foundation.

Sure, and logically the Roman foundation that just failed wouldn't be the primary sustaining factor would it?

You're just gonna pretend the Classical World didn't exist?

I cited the First World, enlightenment, and industry specifically, which are all distinct from the Classical World. Linnaeus, Kepler, Newton, and all the other pioneers of modern math and science were Christian because they needed to start from the premise of an ordered universe authored by a single designer to select their paths of inquiry. Also, the notions of natural rights and freedom as moral come straight from Christianity.

I will freely admit the Classical World has titanic achievements under its record, as do China and Japan. Interestingly enough, those cultures tended to exist in a simultaneously religious and irreligious state as mentioned previously.

Okay, then lets look at the Christian countries in South America and Africa which are very religious. Oh... oh no...

Not amazing, but they're much better off than they used to be.

I know Americans tend to be very full of themselves but this is incredibly arrogant even for an American. [...] But don't worry I hold the European peoples as well as the rest of the world to the same standard. Not just Americans. In the end Europeans are responsible for the downfall of Europe.

I feel like you answered yourself on that one.

If the Jews didn't kill Christ, Christianity wouldn't exist. So you should thank them for it. And no Christianity didn't expel Jews. Individual countries did. And in the end they all invited them back in again.

Also Jesus was a Jew, if he ever existed. He was a Jewish Messiah born in a Jewish country, raised as a Jew, lived as a Jew, who tried to "save" the chosen people of the Jewish God. Jews. The first Christians were Jews, the first Pope was a Jew. Christianity is based on Judaism just as Islam.

Yes, all of that is true (except for thanking the Jews, as it was God's plan, not theirs). Christianity is the true form of Judaism, the way that God reaches out to humanity.

Blindly following authority will always end in your downfall. Without fail. And that's exactly what Christianity teaches. Trust God. Trust the Church. Trust the Pope. Trust your priest. Trust the Bible. But in the end all of it is man made. And man is fallible.

Focus on what is actually important. Your culture, your blood, your ancestors, your history. Not a stupid fucking religion that puts itself above all of it.

Ultimately the reason the Bible is above all else is that it's the word of God. How do I know? It has made scores of historical prophecies that have been fulfilled and it's the most accurate and profound account of human nature that's ever been published. And yet at the same time it's a compilation of books written over thousands of years by dozens of different people that all make a coherent whole. Clearly only God can do that.

The fact that Christianity fostered almost every fundamental advancement of the First World is just a point of utility that supports that claim. In the end, most of the world is shared between the three Abrahamic religions. The story of the world will continue to be a battle within Christianity and among its false divergences.

Right. It was definitely Christianity and not its Roman foundation.

Sure, and logically the Roman foundation that just failed wouldn't be the primary sustaining factor would it?

You're just gonna pretend the Classical World didn't exist?

I cited the First World, enlightenment, and industry specifically, which are all distinct from the Classical World. Linnaeus, Kepler, Newton, and all the other pioneers of modern math and science were Christian because they needed to start from the premise of an ordered universe authored by a single designer to select their paths of inquiry. Also, the notions of natural rights and freedom as moral come straight from Christianity.

I will freely admit the Classical World has titanic achievements under its record, as do China and Japan. Interestingly enough, those cultures tended to exist in a simultaneously religious and irreligious state as mentioned previously.

Okay, then lets look at the Christian countries in South America and Africa which are very religious. Oh... oh no...

Not amazing, but they're much better off than they used to be.

I know Americans tend to be very full of themselves but this is incredibly arrogant even for an American. [...] But don't worry I hold the European peoples as well as the rest of the world to the same standard. Not just Americans. In the end Europeans are responsible for the downfall of Europe.

I feel like you answered yourself on that one.

If the Jews didn't kill Christ, Christianity wouldn't exist. So you should thank them for it. And no Christianity didn't expel Jews. Individual countries did. And in the end they all invited them back in again.

Also Jesus was a Jew, if he ever existed. He was a Jewish Messiah born in a Jewish country, raised as a Jew, lived as a Jew, who tried to "save" the chosen people of the Jewish God. Jews. The first Christians were Jews, the first Pope was a Jew. Christianity is based on Judaism just as Islam.

Yes, all of that is true. Christianity is the true form of Judaism, the way that God reaches out to humanity.

Blindly following authority will always end in your downfall. Without fail. And that's exactly what Christianity teaches. Trust God. Trust the Church. Trust the Pope. Trust your priest. Trust the Bible. But in the end all of it is man made. And man is fallible.

Focus on what is actually important. Your culture, your blood, your ancestors, your history. Not a stupid fucking religion that puts itself above all of it.

Ultimately the reason the Bible is above all else is that it's the word of God. How do I know? It has made scores of historical prophecies that have been fulfilled and it's the most accurate and profound account of human nature that's ever been published. And yet at the same time it's a compilation of books written over thousands of years by dozens of different people that all make a coherent whole. Clearly only God can do that.

The fact that Christianity fostered almost every fundamental advancement of the First World is just a point of utility that supports that claim. In the end, most of the world is shared between the three Abrahamic religions. The story of the world will continue to be a battle within Christianity and among its false divergences.

Right. It was definitely Christianity and not its Roman foundation.

Sure, and logically the Roman foundation that just failed wouldn't be the primary sustaining factor would it?

You're just gonna pretend the Classical World didn't exist?

I cited the First World, enlightenment, and industry specifically, which are all distinct from the Classical World. Linnaeus, Kepler, Newton, and all the other pioneers of modern math and science were Christian because they needed to start from the premise of an ordered universe authored by a single designer to select their paths of inquiry. Also, the notions of natural rights and freedom as moral come straight from Christianity.

I will freely admit the Classical World has titanic achievements under its record, as do China and Japan. Interestingly enough, those cultures tended to exist in a simultaneously religious and irreligious state as I mentioned previously.

Okay, then lets look at the Christian countries in South America and Africa which are very religious. Oh... oh no...

Not amazing, but they're much better off than they used to be.

I know Americans tend to be very full of themselves but this is incredibly arrogant even for an American. [...] But don't worry I hold the European peoples as well as the rest of the world to the same standard. Not just Americans. In the end Europeans are responsible for the downfall of Europe.

I feel like you answered yourself on that one.

If the Jews didn't kill Christ, Christianity wouldn't exist. So you should thank them for it. And no Christianity didn't expel Jews. Individual countries did. And in the end they all invited them back in again.

Also Jesus was a Jew, if he ever existed. He was a Jewish Messiah born in a Jewish country, raised as a Jew, lived as a Jew, who tried to "save" the chosen people of the Jewish God. Jews. The first Christians were Jews, the first Pope was a Jew. Christianity is based on Judaism just as Islam.

Yes, all of that is true. Christianity is the true form of Judaism, the way that God reaches out to humanity.

Blindly following authority will always end in your downfall. Without fail. And that's exactly what Christianity teaches. Trust God. Trust the Church. Trust the Pope. Trust your priest. Trust the Bible. But in the end all of it is man made. And man is fallible.

Focus on what is actually important. Your culture, your blood, your ancestors, your history. Not a stupid fucking religion that puts itself above all of it.

Ultimately the reason the Bible is above all else is that it's the word of God. How do I know? It has made scores of historical prophecies that have been fulfilled and it's the most accurate and profound account of human nature that's ever been published. And yet at the same time it's a compilation of books written over thousands of years by dozens of different people that all make a coherent whole. Clearly only God can do that.

The fact that Christianity fostered almost every fundamental advancement of the First World is just a point of utility that supports that claim. In the end, most of the world is shared between the three Abrahamic religions. The story of the world will continue to be a battle within Christianity and among its false divergences.

Right. It was definitely Christianity and not its Roman foundation.

Sure, and logically the Roman foundation that just failed wouldn't be the primary sustaining factor would it?

You're just gonna pretend the Classical World didn't exist?

I cited the First World, enlightenment, and industry specifically, which are all distinct from the Classical World. Linnaeus, Kepler, Newton, and all the other pioneers of modern math and science were Christian because they needed to start from the premise of an ordered universe authored by a single designer to select their paths of inquiry. Also, the notions of natural rights and freedom as moral come straight from Christianity.

I will freely admit the Classical World has titanic achievements under its record, as do China and Japan. Interestingly enough, those cultures tended to exist in a simultaneously religious and irreligious state as I mentioned previously.

Okay, then lets look at the Christian countries in South America and Africa which are very religious. Oh... oh no...

Not amazing, but they're much better off than they used to be.

I know Americans tend to be very full of themselves but this is incredibly arrogant even for an American. [...] But don't worry I hold the European peoples as well as the rest of the world to the same standard. Not just Americans. In the end Europeans are responsible for the downfall of Europe.

I feel like you answered yourself on that one.

If the Jews didn't kill Christ, Christianity wouldn't exist. So you should thank them for it. And no Christianity didn't expel Jews. Individual countries did. And in the end they all invited them back in again.

Also Jesus was a Jew, if he ever existed. He was a Jewish Messiah born in a Jewish country, raised as a Jew, lived as a Jew, who tried to "save" the chosen people of the Jewish God. Jews. The first Christians were Jews, the first Pope was a Jew. Christianity is based on Judaism just as Islam.

Yes, all of that is true. Christianity is the true form of Judaism.

Blindly following authority will always end in your downfall. Without fail. And that's exactly what Christianity teaches. Trust God. Trust the Church. Trust the Pope. Trust your priest. Trust the Bible. But in the end all of it is man made. And man is fallible.

Focus on what is actually important. Your culture, your blood, your ancestors, your history. Not a stupid fucking religion that puts itself above all of it.

Ultimately the reason the Bible is above all else is that it's the word of God. How do I know? It has made scores of historical prophecies that have been fulfilled and it's the most accurate and profound account of human nature that's ever been published. And yet at the same time it's a compilation of books written over thousands of years by dozens of different people that all make a coherent whole. Clearly only God can do that.

The fact that Christianity fostered almost every fundamental advancement of the First World is just a point of utility that supports that claim. In the end, most of the world is shared between the three Abrahamic religions. The story of the world will continue to be a battle within Christianity and among its false divergences.