That kind of tribalism is a rabbit-hole that never turns out well.

Yeah, this bullshit is straight up lies or ignorance. That kind of tribalism is the foundation of every stable, peaceful society in human history. I challenge anyone to name just one society that made no differentiation between society members and outsiders that lasted even a single generation. They don't exist because they were all conquered or wiped out by people who did.

Sure some tribal societies ended badly, but that's because everything has to end some way eventually and some inevitably won't be great, it's not inherently part of tribalism. Patriotism is tribalism on a grand scale, and the US used to practice it to a large degree. That didn't lead to the US becoming genocidal maniacs did it? No, they just quietly gave up patriotism without a single shot fired (much to the general detriment of the people now helpless to outside exploitation by people who do still practice tribal solidarity). Tribalism is a tool for better leveraging people's power and saying it's inherently evil is just as dumb as saying guns are inherently evil.

That kind of tribalism is a rabbit-hole that never turns out well.

Yeah, this bullshit is straight up lies or ignorance. That kind of tribalism is the foundation of every stable, peaceful society in human history. I challenge anyone to name just one one society that made no differentiation between society members and outsiders that lasted even a single generation. They don't exist because they were all conquered or wiped out by people who did.

Sure some tribal societies ended badly, but that's because everything has to end some way eventually and some inevitably won't be great, it's not inherently part of tribalism. Patriotism is tribalism on a grand scale, and the US used to practice it to a large degree. That didn't lead to the US becoming genocidal maniacs did it? No, they just quietly gave up patriotism without a single shot fired (much to the general detriment of the people now helpless to outside exploitation by people who do still practice tribal solidarity). Tribalism is a tool for better leveraging people's power and saying it's inherently evil is just as dumb as saying guns are inherently evil.