Well, first of all, I'm not the biggest fan of that dichotomy in the first place, but insomuch as everyone uses it, it is pretty unavoidable.

There are multiple ways one could argue that neolibs are not right wing.

Radically pro abortion, anti gun, pro bureaucracy, pro LGBTWTFBBQ indoctrination in schools, pro union, pro taxation, pro welfare, etc. Think of positions held by leftists, and most of them are furthered by neolibs.

They're also pro open borders and blatantly globalist. I would say being globalist fundamentally precludes one from being right wing, so by that metric many of the RINO Republicans are much more left wing than Democrats are right wing.

Also, there's the line of thought that any ideology that is authoritarian is fundamentally left wing. That is, that the so-called "libertarian left" does not exist because the term itself is an oxymoron. Then from there, it goes without saying neolibs are authoritarian, so they must be left wing.

I could nod my head at any of the above arguments, but to reiterate, I hate the left-right dichotomy anyway. I prefer more specific labels with more firm, less fluid definitions. One might say the definitions of left and right are not fluid, but I think its pretty undeniable that they have been mangled beyond recognition when one looks at how they're used in common parlance.

Well, first of all, I'm not the biggest fan of that dichotomy in the first place, but insomuch as everyone uses it, it is pretty unavoidable.

There are multiple ways one could argue that neolibs are not right wing.

Radically pro abortion, anti gun, pro bureaucracy, pro LGBTWTFBBQ indoctrination in schools, pro union, pro taxation, pro welfare, etc. Think of positions held by leftists, and most of them are furthered by neolibs.

They're also pro open borders and blatantly globalist. I would say being globalist fundamentally precludes one from being right wing, so by that metric many of the RINO Republicans are much more left wing than Democrats are right wing.

Also, there's the line of thought that any ideology that is authoritarian is fundamentally left wing. That is, that the so-called "libertarian left" does not exist because the term itself is on oxymoron. Then from there, it goes without saying neolibs are authoritarian, so they must be left wing.

I could nod my head at any of the above arguments, but to reiterate, I hate the left-right dichotomy anyway. I prefer more specific labels with more firm, less fluid definitions. One might say the definitions of left and right are not fluid, but I think its pretty undeniable that they have been mangled beyond recognition when one looks at how they're used in common parlance.

Well, first of all, I'm not the biggest fan of that dichotomy in the first place, but insomuch as everyone uses it, it is pretty unavoidable.

There are multiple ways one could argue that neolibs are not right wing.

Radically pro abortion, anti gun, pro bureaucracy, pro LGBTWTFBBQ indoctrination in schools, pro union, pro taxation, pro welfare, etc. Think of positions held by leftists, and most of them are furthered by neolibs.

They're also pro open borders and blatantly globalist. I would say being globalist fundamentally precludes one from being right wing, so by that metric many of the RINO Republicans are much more left wing than Democrats are right wing.

Also, there's the line of thought that any ideology that is authoritarian is fundamentally left wing. That is, that the so-called "libertarian left" does not exist because the term itself is on oxymoron.

I could nod my head at any of the above arguments, but to reiterate, I hate the left-right dichotomy anyway. I prefer more specific labels with more firm, less fluid definitions. One might say the definitions of left and right are not fluid, but I think its pretty undeniable that they have been mangled beyond recognition when one looks at how they're used in common parlance.