people who are delusional about the world owing them sex are beyond redemption

Do they believe they are literally owed sex, or are they frustrated with a broken social contract that promotes sex as an indispensable status symbol, promises it based on certain transactional criteria and then tells them they're not worthy of having it and it's their fault for being pathetic losers?

I actually don't know much about incel culture but I always thought it was the latter, not the former. Obviously in a group built from grievance there's going to be a spectrum of people ranging from the hurt and frustrated, to the delusional and entitled, to the rapey. But seeing the hypocritical antipathy they're treated with by the self-appointed champions of love and tolerance, I'm inclined to view their cause with sympathy.

I swear these people don't want people with mental issues to get better.

Exactly.

They don't want themselves/their own to get better because their ideas thrive on mental illness, and getting better would mean taking responsibility.

They don't want white/straight/men to get better because they despise us and want to see us suffer.

They don't want everyone else to get better because healthy people are harder to control and can't be exploited for profit or political gain.

people who are delusional about the world owing them sex are beyond redemption

Do they believe they are literally owed sex, or are they frustrated with a broken social contract that promotes sex as an indispensable status symbol, promises it based on certain transactional criteria and then tells them they're not worthy of having it and it's their fault for being pathetic losers?

I actually don't know much about incel culture but I always thought it was the latter, not the former. Obviously in a group built from grievance there's going to be a spectrum of people ranging from the hurt and frustrated, to the delusional and entitled, to the rapey. But seeing the hypocritical antipathy they're treated with by the self-appointed champions of love and tolerance, I'm inclined to view their cause with sympathy.

I swear these people don't want people with mental issues to get better.

Exactly.

They don't want their own to get better because their narrative is built on enabling mental illness.

They don't want white/straight/men to get better because they despise us.

They don't want everyone else to get better because they can't be exploited for profit or politics.