Strawman. You haven't read the link at all or you cherry picked past this nugget:.

"Evidence is provided on the misleading origin of the 7 million estimate and problems with the different attempts to justify it. The choice is between a figure based on research that ignores universally accepted scholarly principles and can be easily discredited due to its unrealistic implications, and a figure based on research conducted according to Western scientific standards".

The sources for the 7million guess?

A newspaper and a "report" from an ambassador type from Germany, not even the Ukraine itself.

"two sources in support of the 7 million figure: a) estimates by German diplomats in Ukraine in the 1930s and an article by the Ukrainian agronomist-statistician S. Sosnovyj published in the Kharkiv newspaper Nova Ukraina in 1942 and reprinted in the diaspora newspaper Ukrayinski Visti in 1950.".

(Hint that agronomist statician? That's a person who studies farming...they cite a farmer for death tolls)

Questioning the numbers because they're are guestimates is not invalidating or denying . That "tiny" little word changes everything, especially when abusers like you cite a number as fact.. when it's not.

You need to take a long hard look at yourself and stop trying to abuse people with guilt over something they're not responsible for because you can't let it go.

Unless you are admitting that being Jewish now is solely down to "finding a true death toll" and none of the other heritage stuff.

The same behaviour comes from black people who only have the slavery aspect as their identity.

At which point the goal of asserting guesses as fact, is only done to enable a dagger to be hung over the world, "You can't chastise or disagree with us because of this." I pity you sir. Now kindly, feck off.

Strawman. You haven't read the link at all or you cherry picked past this nugget:.

"Evidence is provided on the misleading origin of the 7 million estimate and problems with the different attempts to justify it. The choice is between a figure based on research that ignores universally accepted scholarly principles and can be easily discredited due to its unrealistic implications, and a figure based on research conducted according to Western scientific standards".

The sources for the 7million guess?

A newspaper and a "report" from an ambassador type from Germany, not even the Ukraine itself.

"two sources in support of the 7 million figure: a) estimates by German diplomats in Ukraine in the 1930s and an article by the Ukrainian agronomist-statistician S. Sosnovyj published in the Kharkiv newspaper Nova Ukraina in 1942 and reprinted in the diaspora newspaper Ukrayinski Visti in 1950."

Questioning the numbers because they're are guestimates is not invalidating or denying . That "tiny" little word changes everything, especially when abusers like you cite a number as fact.. when it's not.

You need to take a long hard look at yourself and stop trying to abuse people with guilt over something they're not responsible for because you can't let it go.

Unless you are admitting that being Jewish now is solely down to "finding a true death toll" and none of the other heritage stuff.

The same behaviour comes from black people who only have the slavery aspect as their identity.

At which point the goal of asserting guesses as fact, is only done to enable a dagger to be hung over the world, "You can't chastise or disagree with us because of this." I pity you sir. Now kindly, feck off.

Strawman. You haven't read the link at all or you cherry picked past this nugget:.

"Evidence is provided on the misleading origin of the 7 million estimate and problems with the different attempts to justify it. The choice is between a figure based on research that ignores universally accepted scholarly principles and can be easily discredited due to its unrealistic implications, and a figure based on research conducted according to Western scientific standards".

The sources for the 7million guess?

A newspaper and a "report" from an ambassador type from Germany, not even the Ukraine itself.

"two sources in support of the 7 million figure: a) estimates by German diplomats in Ukraine in the 1930s and an article by the Ukrainian agronomist-statistician S. Sosnovyj published in the Kharkiv newspaper Nova Ukraina in 1942 and reprinted in the diaspora newspaper Ukrayinski Visti in 1950."

Questioning the numbers because they're are guestimates is not invalidating or denying . That "tiny" little word changes everything, especially when abusers like you cite a number as fact.. when it's not.

You need to take a long hard look at yourself and stop trying to abuse people with guilt over something they're not responsible for because you can't let it go.

Unless you are admitting that being Jewish now is solely down to "finding a true death toll" and none of the other heritage stuff.

The same behaviour comes from black people who only have the slavery aspect as their identity.

I pity you sir. Now kindly, feck off.

Strawman. You haven't read the link at all or you cherry picked past this nugget:.

"Evidence is provided on the misleading origin of the 7 million estimate and problems with the different attempts to justify it. The choice is between a figure based on research that ignores universally accepted scholarly principles and can be easily discredited due to its unrealistic implications, and a figure based on research conducted according to Western scientific standards"

Questioning the numbers because they're are guestimates is not invalidating or denying .

You need to take a long hard look at yourself and stop trying to abuse people with guilt over something they're not responsible for because you can't let it go.

Unless you are admitting that being Jewish now is solely down to "finding a true death toll" and none of the other heritage stuff.

The same behaviour comes from black people who only have the slavery aspect as their identity.

I pity you sir. Now kindly, feck off.