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NYT: “America May Need International Intervention” (archive.is)
posted 5 years ago by altmehere 5 years ago by altmehere +37 / -0
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– CatoTheElder 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

You presume that right-wing authoritarianism has succeeded in keeping leftism from power, it hasn't.

Outright false. Even today Chile is the least socialist and most stable country in South America. On the other hand, every part of US life is regulated, and thus socialist.

I said keep them from having a power structure to seize.

Cambodia proved that they do not need a preexisting power stucture to massacre people. They can do that when ever they want because the left is NEVER bound by law. The law only applies to people who let it apply to them, thus it only restrains the right.

They've lost ground since Roosevelt,

Also False. Test it and see. Has the NFA gained or lost power? Have environmental regulations increased or decreased? Has Social Security expanded or contracted? What about Medicare and Medicaid? EEOC? IRS?

If that were true, the Soviet Union, China, and Cambodia would all have been right-wing countries in the 40's, 60's, and 70's respectively. They're not because no one kills more Communists than Communists.

You win the Dumbest Statement of the Year award. Impressive, considering this is an election year.
In case you are too dense to see why, if a communist kills a communist then there is still a communist left over. On the other hand if say an AnCap kills a communist then there is not a communist left over. The goal is not to get the most kills, (this isn't TDM), the goal is to reduce the number of communist to zero.

The only way is to not make that tool for them because they can't build it for themselves.

Runner up for dumbest statement of the year. The Russian revolution proves this one wrong. Leftist have no problem killing people whenever they want. Just ask Seth Rich.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Even today Chile is the least socialist and most stable country in South America. On the other hand, every part of US life is regulated, and thus socialist.

The US is not a socialist country, and is not nearly as regulated as you are pretending. It's run by Fabian Socialists, but it is not, itself, socialist.

As for Chile, "least socialist" in South America is like saying you're the least Communist person at the Soviet. Pinochet nearly destroyed his economy until he embraced some aspects of Chicago Style economics. The transition from Pinochet has been gradual because of many concerted efforts by socialists to seize power. Currently they're still fighting off leftism, and I suspect they are going to lose considering how much power the "Social Democrats" have.

Right-Wing authoritarianism doesn't keep leftism from power.

Cambodia proved that they do not need a preexisting power [structure] to massacre people.

Yes, they just need an endless Guerilla war against a Royalist government where they can form completely parallel systems of power because the royalists banned them from operating out in the open. Again, you're just proving my point without understanding it. Leftists will operate in parallel systems if you ban them.

Also False. Test it and see. Has the NFA gained or lost power? Have environmental regulations increased or decreased? Has Social Security expanded or contracted? What about Medicare and Medicaid? EEOC? IRS?

The Corporate Tax rate is no longer 90%. There is no longer an effort to ban private education. Gold & Silver have been re-legalized. Price controls have mostly dropped off. Control over entire industries by a corporate-gov't-union cartel has also been lost in many industries. The NFA has lost significant power since the $200 stamp wasn't adjusted for inflation at any point (Your stamp should cost $3,879.37). On that same note, There is no longer a $213 /hr minimum wage for the cotton industry (that would be $252 /hr minimum wage today). Unions have been dramatically weakened (union membership has decreased, mandatory unions are being challenged). Most of FDR's New Deal programs were reversed.

The US is not fully socialist at this time, under FDR, it damn near was.

The goal is not to get the most kills, (this isn't TDM), the goal is to reduce the number of communist to zero.

And right-wing authoritarianism has almost universally failed at that. The only exception, would basically be Iran, and it's still only a stop gap. If the Iranian regime fails, and none of the other Gulf states subjugate the country, the Leftists will step in.

You can't eliminate leftism when you create leftists through your behavior, and guarantee them a target to aim for.

The Russian revolution proves this one wrong.

The Russian revolution proves it right. Again, you're not familiar with the stuff your throwing at me. The Bolsheviks were notorious for causing absolute havoc everywhere they went. Their people were always starving.

Leftism always resorts to parasitism, and when that fails, they resort to plundering. Leftism only survives when it takes a moment to hollow out a space in the Leftist economy to let the private sector and the marketplace attempt to build economic activity. Then, they parasitize that.

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