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posted 5 years ago by xAzureAceStarburstx 5 years ago by xAzureAceStarburstx +56 / -0
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– jubyeonin 25 points 5 years ago +25 / -0

It was essentially three socialist factions fighting each other for power and one of them dragged us in.

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– TentElephant 17 points 5 years ago +17 / -0

We should have stayed out and sold, not lent or leased, everything to all of them. America First

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– deleted 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0
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– ShadowDaHedgehog 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

Honestly what killed the America first movement was Huey P Long getting shot he had plans to run under the Union party which supported America First and he was popular enough to get enough votes to possibly beat FDR. One of Longs campaign promises was to fight communism at every step of the way. After his death everything fell apart and The Union party was finished and His warnings of Communist infiltration went ignored.

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– ShadowDaHedgehog 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Staying out really wasn’t possible Japan attacked Pearl Harbor and then when we declared war on Japan in retaliation Germany declared war on us for going to war with Japan. The only way we could’ve stayed out of that war was if we allowed Japan to get away with destroying Pearl Harbor which would have been highly unlikely due to the massive public demand for making Japan pay for all the Americans they killed that day.

If Japan left us alone we may have never gotten directly involved with World War II. Hell, If Hitler left us alone and didn’t declare war on us to defend Japan we probably only would’ve went after Japan and ignored Europe entirely.

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– TentElephant 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

Selling everything to everyone avoids this scenario. FDR squeezed Japan's oil to provoke an attack, so he would have the casus belli needed to invade Germany. We shouldn't have given anyone free shit either.

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– ShadowDaHedgehog 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Selling everything to everyone really did not work though, Because the main reason the embargo happened was Japan invaded French Indochina and cut America off from all trade with China meaning everything we sold to China was cut off and we could not collect the money China owed us because of Japan, and all rubber we were buying from China and French Indochina were essentially cut off from us. It was sort of a tit for tat situation you block us from getting rubber we block you from getting oil.

On top of the fact that Japan has been threatening us for ownership of the Philippines for a while before the embargo and we could not give up the Philippines because it was a very important strategic point in the Pacific for our Navy. I have a strong feeling even if we never embargo Japan they would have still attacked us.

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– christianknight 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

The Federal reserve dragged us in.

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– jubyeonin 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

It was one of them. They had many organizations pulling the strings.

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– exilde 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

The implications of their socialism should be acknowledged, though. One sought policy that was socialist toward an ethnic group, including territories were the ethnic language was popular, while the other sought worldwide domination. Then you had Catholics.

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– deleted 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

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