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Remember when big tech censorship was laughed off as a Slippery Slope fallacy? (twitter.com)
posted 5 years ago by UnsubtleAardvark 5 years ago by UnsubtleAardvark +83 / -0
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– TentElephant 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

My theory is that the foundational problem is hubris. Everyone sees problems around them and thinks they can personally concieve the complete system enough to solve those problems personally. Thus, they create bureaucrats to enforce economic controls to fix things, caps on grain price is a classic.

The unaccountable bureaucrats are the problem, but then one would also have to admit that they can't see the full picture. No one wants to give up their power or think less of themselves, so they keep tightening the screws instead of admitting that the existence of those controls is why they failed. It is innate to restrictive economic policy.

As the lies to justify themselves stack, they need to disconnect from reality in a very significant, notably ruinous way.

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– tacocharleston 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

I got sucked into this (fantastic) site's rabbit hole the other day - https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-problematize/

Basically it discusses critical theory, especially critical race theory, in such a way to try to help you understand what they actually believe. What's happening now is the poison pill of critical theory is reaching critical mass. They've labeled liberalism (in the Lockean sense), philosophy, and science as the enemy (thus masculine/white) and believe in other 'ways of knowing', especially "direct experience" and storytelling. Instead of seeking knowledge they 'problematize' which is described well in that link, it's basically seeking ways to demonize everything.

This concept married with postmodernism and became straight up fucking evil and now it's undermining the central tenets of our way of life. IMO this is the foundational problem, it's the growth of this horrific ideology.

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– coke501 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

And here we are. Well maybe not here exactly but on both reddit-KIAs there's tons of users that always find excuses why that one thing is OK to be censored. Because of course nazis/lolis/rapefetishists/whathaveyou should not be allowed.

Funny thing is, these users tell themselves that they are for free expression

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– coke501 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all.

H.L. Mencken

There's a lot of 'free-speech-advocates' that do not understand this simple thing.

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– exilde 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.

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– AsahiNoHikari 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Rapist nazi lolis as a litmus test for free expression? Sounds good to me.

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– Soup_Navy_Admiral 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

I remember a lot of things being mocked as slippery slope fallacies.

And now we're going downhill at 90 mph.

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– Sumsuch 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

I remember when I was told to chill out, because it was just a couple of student governments, and totally wouldn't continue once they got real jobs.

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– ColludingWithAmerica 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Just think how more messed up this would be if we enshrined them as utilities like they wanted to be

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– todiwan 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Not only do I remember that, but I also remember when I was younger, way before GamerGate, when I called conservatives stupid, conspiracy theorists and bigots for making their predictions about where progressivism is going to go. Now years later, it turns out they were right about a ton of things. Not everything, but many things. I'm still left-wing, but it was a good wake-up call showing me that you can learn something from anyone, regardless of their political persuasion.

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