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I think that's nothing more than another argument about the very nature of intelligence itself, but I also don't think that intelligence is innate in the way that it keeps being touted. Intelligence, first, is not genetic in and of itself, it is a measure of multiple things that are informed by genetics. The ability for average IQ's to rise and fall over time in populations suggests to me that how it is being used is a fairly significant abuse of any actual argument about genetics.
Right and behavior might be partially the result of genetics, as well as environment, and environment can even effect genetics as well.
This is a fair point, and the Flynn effect seems very real (though it's seemed to have evaporated in the last decade or two). However, racial disparity is fairly persistent, despite conducive environments for realizing higher potentials of intelligence. The average may rise and fall a standard deviation across the board, but the average deviation between blacks and whites track pretty much the same. Nutrition seems to be a major factor. The rationing of sugar during WW2 correlated strongly with a major boost in IQ in the British youth growing up in that period. Perhaps it was the exercise of rationing itself, though that's unlikely over such a short period of time. Could be the decrease we currently see is also a dietary issue. Maybe it's google and lack of mental exercise.
Potential intelligence is likely genetic in and of itself. Realized intelligence will be a combination of the potential one starts with, and how well the environment is suited to realizing the full potential. I'm not saying there's an intelligence gene, but there are a little over 1000 that we know of so far that interact to create what we call intelligence. In the most basic sense, intelligence is just the ability to apply knowledge.
Environment can certainly effect gene expression and mutation. That's not even debatable. That doesn't mean you're going to turn someone with a max 90 IQ potential into a genius, even with the absolute best environment.
In these discussions though, it's always important to remember that this isn't about an individual (we all vary a lot, even within our families), but the large numbers present in demographic groups, the trends that emerge from those large numbers, and the impacts those trends have on the broader society.
I'm not even sure if that would work.
Right, but when you start talking about groups of people, that stops being an issue, and we can start talking about sex selection.
Yes, absolutely. We have built a society that can function relatively well without intelligent people, because we've centralized so much. IQ is even becoming less of factor in socioeconomic success. Intelligence is not a valuable trait in a mate right now.
I don't think I could disagree with you any further. Centralization might have lowered people's aptitude, but IQ is absolutely one of the most important factors in socioeconomic success. Intelligence is now, and always has been, a valuable trait.
There are times and places where it is not the most valuable trait (like in times of war or famine), but it's always near the top because it is inevitably useful.
Leftists like DoM fear honest talk about race realiam and Judeo-Bolsheviks.