I have to agree with @Slatzism. Accessibility does not always satiate demand for sexual acts, it actually sometimes increases it. Legalization of prostitution in Europe exploded demand to the point that biker gangs are still forcing runaways, drug addicts, and Slavic immigrants into brothels because there simply aren't enough women willing to do it, but there's tons of money to be made.
Not sure about the larger point about AI porn though. I think that'll eventually supplant the industry, if for no other reason because the fake will be virtually indistinguishable from the real.
I know for an absolute fact that "AI porn" is blowing up in popularity for still images (both 2d and 3d are amazing quality), and videos are making headway. I think it's entirely inevitable that AI video may completely supplant the real stuff once it can fix its 'object permanence' problems and keep scenes and motions consistent. Whoever this poster is is fucking retarded for suggesting that it's not taking off, at the very least.
I don't tend to like to engage with this subject much because I have an autistic fixation on a question that I never get a satisfactory response for; if violence in all my media isn't making me a mass-murderer, why would sex make me a rapist-to-be? I hear "it just does" and "get in the woodchipper" (even though I haven't advocated for anything) as general responses, I just need a logical (and ultimately legal, laws will cover this) reason to build an argument off of for every other instance of explaining it. We had this problem with Jack Thompson for violence, with Anita for sexism/racism, and now generically for cheese pizza. If Jack and Anita were retards, why is this one right? I don't know how to reconcile "it's not real" and "it's training you to want to do it" logically.
I grew up in the 90s being berated with "weed is a gateway drug!!!" being slung at me from every direction. Both my mom and sister are heavy tokers, but neither have expressed interest in meth, cocaine, heroin, fentanyl, pain-killers, or anything else. I don't drink, smoke, or toke at all despite growing up in the same house my whole life. I don't even drink coffee. If weed has not resulted in them spiraling out of control, and it significantly affects the body's chemistry, why would porn affect someone more, or differently? Why would it convince them to "try it?"
I worry what this one will do to my reputation here. I hope you all can understand the good will with which I ask these questions.
I grew up in the 90s being berated with "weed is a gateway drug!!!" being slung at me from every direction. Both my mom and sister are heavy tokers, but neither have expressed interest in meth, cocaine, heroin, fentanyl, pain-killers, or anything else
This slippery slope was heavily simplified for marketing slogans, but it wasn't wrong.
Where I grew up (and likely most areas of the country) the guy selling you weed was also the guy selling you the harder stuff too. He had vested interest in getting you addicted to more expensive, more addictive stuff. Including lacing it in the weed he was selling you if necessary.
Not to mention for a lot of people their introduction to weed comes from a place of "wanting to rebel" or "social pressures" both of which will only increase the chances of them moving on to higher "party drugs" with time.
Most people who heard the slogan assumed incorrectly that "you'll need cocaine to get the same high as weed eventually!" when the reality is "people who do X have a much higher chance of moving onto Y" and it was a better idea to keep your chances nearer 0% by simply never doing it in the first place.
A good amount of people will never have issue in this regard, and if kept in a healthy society, with a healthy community and mental state, the chances of it going wrong are probably pretty low. This applies to pot and porn alike.
But do you think we live in such a world? Do most people have such resilience and self-control? Should we always assume something will be used in the most optimal method and environment when making our judgements and decisions of it, or do we shame it because of how horribly wrong it can go?
I never met anyone offering me hard drugs to get me addicted, "first hit's free" and all the boomer DARE propaganda. The only people I ever knew who were willing to suck dick for drugs didn't actually want the drugs.
Lol, he ain't gonna offer it free. That's propaganda to simplify it. The same way abstinence is taught rather than the nuances of safer sex.
But just like every other form of salesmanship, it being there massively increases your chance of buying it. These are salesmen, they know how to sell you things. Even if they are dealing out of a dirty trap house, the same techniques still apply and will be used as they would at a car dealership or furniture store.
So, while you might be someone who is able to not fall for those tricks, they work on the majority of people consistently. That's why they are taught and used.
The only people I ever knew who were willing to suck dick for drugs didn't actually want the drugs.
You haven't met enough women then. This is usually how they start, sucking dick to get free drugs gleefully before it turns into "I hate this but I need it." Shit its why drug dealers always have girlfriends lined up, even if they are ugly goblin men.
I have to agree with @Slatzism. Accessibility does not always satiate demand for sexual acts, it actually sometimes increases it. Legalization of prostitution in Europe exploded demand to the point that biker gangs are still forcing runaways, drug addicts, and Slavic immigrants into brothels because there simply aren't enough women willing to do it, but there's tons of money to be made.
Not sure about the larger point about AI porn though. I think that'll eventually supplant the industry, if for no other reason because the fake will be virtually indistinguishable from the real.
I know for an absolute fact that "AI porn" is blowing up in popularity for still images (both 2d and 3d are amazing quality), and videos are making headway. I think it's entirely inevitable that AI video may completely supplant the real stuff once it can fix its 'object permanence' problems and keep scenes and motions consistent. Whoever this poster is is fucking retarded for suggesting that it's not taking off, at the very least.
I don't tend to like to engage with this subject much because I have an autistic fixation on a question that I never get a satisfactory response for; if violence in all my media isn't making me a mass-murderer, why would sex make me a rapist-to-be? I hear "it just does" and "get in the woodchipper" (even though I haven't advocated for anything) as general responses, I just need a logical (and ultimately legal, laws will cover this) reason to build an argument off of for every other instance of explaining it. We had this problem with Jack Thompson for violence, with Anita for sexism/racism, and now generically for cheese pizza. If Jack and Anita were retards, why is this one right? I don't know how to reconcile "it's not real" and "it's training you to want to do it" logically.
I grew up in the 90s being berated with "weed is a gateway drug!!!" being slung at me from every direction. Both my mom and sister are heavy tokers, but neither have expressed interest in meth, cocaine, heroin, fentanyl, pain-killers, or anything else. I don't drink, smoke, or toke at all despite growing up in the same house my whole life. I don't even drink coffee. If weed has not resulted in them spiraling out of control, and it significantly affects the body's chemistry, why would porn affect someone more, or differently? Why would it convince them to "try it?"
I worry what this one will do to my reputation here. I hope you all can understand the good will with which I ask these questions.
This slippery slope was heavily simplified for marketing slogans, but it wasn't wrong.
Where I grew up (and likely most areas of the country) the guy selling you weed was also the guy selling you the harder stuff too. He had vested interest in getting you addicted to more expensive, more addictive stuff. Including lacing it in the weed he was selling you if necessary.
Not to mention for a lot of people their introduction to weed comes from a place of "wanting to rebel" or "social pressures" both of which will only increase the chances of them moving on to higher "party drugs" with time.
Most people who heard the slogan assumed incorrectly that "you'll need cocaine to get the same high as weed eventually!" when the reality is "people who do X have a much higher chance of moving onto Y" and it was a better idea to keep your chances nearer 0% by simply never doing it in the first place.
A good amount of people will never have issue in this regard, and if kept in a healthy society, with a healthy community and mental state, the chances of it going wrong are probably pretty low. This applies to pot and porn alike.
But do you think we live in such a world? Do most people have such resilience and self-control? Should we always assume something will be used in the most optimal method and environment when making our judgements and decisions of it, or do we shame it because of how horribly wrong it can go?
I never met anyone offering me hard drugs to get me addicted, "first hit's free" and all the boomer DARE propaganda. The only people I ever knew who were willing to suck dick for drugs didn't actually want the drugs.
Lol, he ain't gonna offer it free. That's propaganda to simplify it. The same way abstinence is taught rather than the nuances of safer sex.
But just like every other form of salesmanship, it being there massively increases your chance of buying it. These are salesmen, they know how to sell you things. Even if they are dealing out of a dirty trap house, the same techniques still apply and will be used as they would at a car dealership or furniture store.
So, while you might be someone who is able to not fall for those tricks, they work on the majority of people consistently. That's why they are taught and used.
You haven't met enough women then. This is usually how they start, sucking dick to get free drugs gleefully before it turns into "I hate this but I need it." Shit its why drug dealers always have girlfriends lined up, even if they are ugly goblin men.