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Using AI to mitigate the pedo problem - yea or nay? (twitter.com)
posted 4 months ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent 4 months ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent +25 / -3
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– The_Shadow_of_Intent [S] 9 points 4 months ago +10 / -1

I have to agree with @Slatzism. Accessibility does not always satiate demand for sexual acts, it actually sometimes increases it. Legalization of prostitution in Europe exploded demand to the point that biker gangs are still forcing runaways, drug addicts, and Slavic immigrants into brothels because there simply aren't enough women willing to do it, but there's tons of money to be made.

Not sure about the larger point about AI porn though. I think that'll eventually supplant the industry, if for no other reason because the fake will be virtually indistinguishable from the real.

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– 1776ReasonsWhy 17 points 4 months ago +17 / -0

I know for an absolute fact that "AI porn" is blowing up in popularity for still images (both 2d and 3d are amazing quality), and videos are making headway. I think it's entirely inevitable that AI video may completely supplant the real stuff once it can fix its 'object permanence' problems and keep scenes and motions consistent. Whoever this poster is is fucking retarded for suggesting that it's not taking off, at the very least.

I don't tend to like to engage with this subject much because I have an autistic fixation on a question that I never get a satisfactory response for; if violence in all my media isn't making me a mass-murderer, why would sex make me a rapist-to-be? I hear "it just does" and "get in the woodchipper" (even though I haven't advocated for anything) as general responses, I just need a logical (and ultimately legal, laws will cover this) reason to build an argument off of for every other instance of explaining it. We had this problem with Jack Thompson for violence, with Anita for sexism/racism, and now generically for cheese pizza. If Jack and Anita were retards, why is this one right? I don't know how to reconcile "it's not real" and "it's training you to want to do it" logically.

I grew up in the 90s being berated with "weed is a gateway drug!!!" being slung at me from every direction. Both my mom and sister are heavy tokers, but neither have expressed interest in meth, cocaine, heroin, fentanyl, pain-killers, or anything else. I don't drink, smoke, or toke at all despite growing up in the same house my whole life. I don't even drink coffee. If weed has not resulted in them spiraling out of control, and it significantly affects the body's chemistry, why would porn affect someone more, or differently? Why would it convince them to "try it?"

I worry what this one will do to my reputation here. I hope you all can understand the good will with which I ask these questions.

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– BeefyBelisarius 2 points 4 months ago +3 / -1

I just need a logical (and ultimately legal, laws will cover this) reason to build an argument off of for every other instance of explaining it. We had this problem with Jack Thompson for violence, with Anita for sexism/racism, and now generically for cheese pizza.

The difference here is that the process of creating cp involves victimizing children. Even AI-generated cp, since the AI would require the real thing to train on before it could generate convincing images. But on the other hand, after that training was done, it could potentially flood the market such that it's no longer profitable to make the real thing.

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– ernsithe 10 points 4 months ago +10 / -0

Even AI-generated cp, since the AI would require the real thing to train on before it could generate convincing images.

I don't understand why people keep trying to use this logic.

I just asked an AI to show me a picture of a giraffe in a space suit. It complied successfully. I very much doubt it was trained on a gallery of giraffes in space suits.

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– 5Cats 2 points 4 months ago +2 / -0

It "looked at" a ton of images of giraffes, and a ton of images of space suits. Ai doesn't actually create anything (not yet) it just mimics stuff in a hopefully recognizable way.

That said? I agree: I don't think it "needs to study CP to make CP" in exactly the way you describe. It can just squash multiple themes together without "studying" that specific set before.

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