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Using AI to mitigate the pedo problem - yea or nay? (twitter.com)
posted 3 months ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent 3 months ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent +25 / -3
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– The_Shadow_of_Intent [S] 9 points 3 months ago +10 / -1

I have to agree with @Slatzism. Accessibility does not always satiate demand for sexual acts, it actually sometimes increases it. Legalization of prostitution in Europe exploded demand to the point that biker gangs are still forcing runaways, drug addicts, and Slavic immigrants into brothels because there simply aren't enough women willing to do it, but there's tons of money to be made.

Not sure about the larger point about AI porn though. I think that'll eventually supplant the industry, if for no other reason because the fake will be virtually indistinguishable from the real.

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– 1776ReasonsWhy 17 points 3 months ago +17 / -0

I know for an absolute fact that "AI porn" is blowing up in popularity for still images (both 2d and 3d are amazing quality), and videos are making headway. I think it's entirely inevitable that AI video may completely supplant the real stuff once it can fix its 'object permanence' problems and keep scenes and motions consistent. Whoever this poster is is fucking retarded for suggesting that it's not taking off, at the very least.

I don't tend to like to engage with this subject much because I have an autistic fixation on a question that I never get a satisfactory response for; if violence in all my media isn't making me a mass-murderer, why would sex make me a rapist-to-be? I hear "it just does" and "get in the woodchipper" (even though I haven't advocated for anything) as general responses, I just need a logical (and ultimately legal, laws will cover this) reason to build an argument off of for every other instance of explaining it. We had this problem with Jack Thompson for violence, with Anita for sexism/racism, and now generically for cheese pizza. If Jack and Anita were retards, why is this one right? I don't know how to reconcile "it's not real" and "it's training you to want to do it" logically.

I grew up in the 90s being berated with "weed is a gateway drug!!!" being slung at me from every direction. Both my mom and sister are heavy tokers, but neither have expressed interest in meth, cocaine, heroin, fentanyl, pain-killers, or anything else. I don't drink, smoke, or toke at all despite growing up in the same house my whole life. I don't even drink coffee. If weed has not resulted in them spiraling out of control, and it significantly affects the body's chemistry, why would porn affect someone more, or differently? Why would it convince them to "try it?"

I worry what this one will do to my reputation here. I hope you all can understand the good will with which I ask these questions.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent [S] 6 points 3 months ago +6 / -0

I don't tend to like to engage with this subject much because I have an autistic fixation on a question that I never get a satisfactory response for; if violence in all my media isn't making me a mass-murderer, why would sex make me a rapist-to-be?

This topic deserves more complexity than it's received over the Gamergate years, but I would argue that the vast majority of video game violence is sublimated into acts that most people would consider somewhat justified. I firmly believe COD and Battlefield drove up army recruitment in the same way Top Gun did for the Navy and Air Force.

GTA allows you to kill anyone, but it's cartoony. RPGs probably have the least amount of mitigation, but I don't know if you could say they genuinely promote immoral violence.

Why would sex or porn make you into a potential rapist? The vast majority of porn is roleplayed as consensual. When it comes to children, though, any sexual contact is by definition nonconsensual. Any thirst a pedo gets from CSAM is impossible to morally satisfy.

Sex itself should not be equated to violence as a public commodity. There are myriad justified reasons for the public application of violence, but none for the public display of sex, and in fact there is a certain point past which most people can agree that cultural familiarization with sex is degrading. Instagram crossed this point a long time ago, and Onlyfans is finishing the job. It creates a false, hollow, predatory, soul-sucking environment.

One of the oldest grooming tactics in the book is familiarizing children with porn. Individuals who are conditioned to treat low-level deviancy as normal will be more open to higher levels. I don't see a way that AI-driven CSAM won't make that tactic more effective on several levels.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 4 points 3 months ago +4 / -0

One of the oldest grooming tactics in the book is familiarizing children with porn. Individuals who are conditioned to treat low-level deviancy as normal will be more open to higher levels. I don't see a way that AI-driven CSAM won't make that tactic more effective on several levels.

best argument so far. If people were worried how accessible porn is to kids, boy howdy are they in for a rude awakening when they see AI's accessibility.

We should at the very least be treating access to AI the same as access to porn.

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– 5Cats 2 points 3 months ago +2 / -0

I agree. This is why the same "teachers" who advocated for homosexuality to be taught to little kids are now pushing CP/trans on them too.

We conservatives don't care if your books have "questionable" content, just keep them the hell away from the children! Especially other people's kids.

It is (usually) part of the grooming process: show them CP and erode their resistance to it. Same as any Classical Conditioning, eh? Like in overcoming a fear of spiders.

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