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Trump just announced the U.S. will now be selling a "GOLD CARD" for $5 million which is basically an instant green card plus a path to citizenship (twitter.com)
posted 1 year ago by onetruephilosoraptor 1 year ago by onetruephilosoraptor +75 / -0
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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 19 points 1 year ago +19 / -0

The Roman empire sold citizenship for money.

How did that end?

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– m0r1arty 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

You show me a working example of any perpetual civilisation and I'll jump in with both feet first.

As it is it seems like a state of constant flux to me.

But I'm sure, this time, it'll work out just right.

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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I am not saying there is a way to have a perpetual civilization.

I am just saying making the same civilization ending mistakes again is a terrible idea.

Trump has always been an amoral businessman, that is the problem here.

He doesn't realize that selling gold cards is destructive to the average American's quality of life and that this is a morally repugnant betrayal of his base.

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– m0r1arty 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Anyone with real money would not chose to live in the US. Even people born there and wish to retain their citizenship stay overseas, Hawaii at the least.

So clearly this isn't about money moving in and inviting everyone around for a barbecue.

It does seem to be an entrance for those with enough capital backing behind them to come in and establish satellite offices for their successful ventures based elsewhere. A means of trade for business which will enrich both the US and wherever they are from - An inverse USAID if you will.

Instead of a deal for infrastructure reform being done on the East coast of Africa being brokered in Jordan, it is brokered in Miami. The freighting of goods through the Panama canal isn't sealed in Tokyo, but Boston. How the world heads discuss collective action in done in New York, not Davos.

That's how it seems to me at least. I can't think of other ways which the US would benefit from an open market which allowed agitators in unless it was in their interests to maintain control. Think Lebanon of 1960 versus any decade before or after that. Beirut was the centre of economic, social, intellectual, and cultural life in the Arabic Middle East. By not maintaining its elite status it became a Third World country still plagued by terrorist activity.

I think this is a case of keep your enemies closer.

But I've no clue as to what is going on in Trump's mind. But it's fun to speculate.

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– RachelkillsBam 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

The Roman empire sold citizenship for money.

Roman Empire ended when they allowed Barbarians to enlist in the military as a path to citizenship.

The payment for Citizenship was not what did it: Having a HIGHLY Training opposition force within the Roman Empire did.

This GOLD card is no different than what a lot of Asian countries already have in place. The sky is not falling in these countries either.

Further, it's $5 Million Dollars! People who have that lying around are not the same type of people we are trying to keep out. IF anything, this the type of person to start a US company.

Finally -- like all things Trump -- this is his first salvo in his negotiation. There are currently no countries out there that have a Gold Visa program that allow an easy path to citizenship, so that will most likely be removed.

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– deleted 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

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