Because people are doing largely the same shit they were before Islam, like Bacha Bazi and khat and Saudi drinking. To say that people pick and choose parts of the Koran they like is not to validate the text. I always figured they need the Hadith because the Koran is insufficiently prescriptive -- but I've never read it.
Because people are doing largely the same shit they were before Islam, like Bacha Bazi
Props for knowing that this is pre-Islamic rather than "Islam mandates fucking boys" as some ill-informed people say.
But of course, this is only partly true. The inhabitants of western Asia Minor aren't engaged in philosophy and the sciences like they were before the Islamic occupation of their lands, but then again, neither do the Greeks in Greece proper who managed to liberate themselves from the Islamic yoke after 400 years.
I mean it narrowly with respect to sex they are doing the same things they used to. Male and female genital mutilation. Women as property. And slavery. Almost all those customs that I've ever tracked down are colored by pre-Islamic practices. Islam allows these practices.
I think you're mistaken about one thing: those practices existed before Islam, so they're not original to Islam, but unlike Bacha Bazi - they have an actual basis in the religion and are not just allowed, but either mandated or encouraged.
There was no male or female genital mutilation in Persia, Asia Minor, North Africa before Islam.
I'll defer to you on all that.... Obviously Islam spread male circumcision (MGM). Basically all of them practice that to this day. I would be interested to know more about FGM. All I know is that it is not practiced everywhere that Islam is practiced.
Because people are doing largely the same shit they were before Islam, like Bacha Bazi and khat and Saudi drinking. To say that people pick and choose parts of the Koran they like is not to validate the text. I always figured they need the Hadith because the Koran is insufficiently prescriptive -- but I've never read it.
Props for knowing that this is pre-Islamic rather than "Islam mandates fucking boys" as some ill-informed people say.
But of course, this is only partly true. The inhabitants of western Asia Minor aren't engaged in philosophy and the sciences like they were before the Islamic occupation of their lands, but then again, neither do the Greeks in Greece proper who managed to liberate themselves from the Islamic yoke after 400 years.
I mean it narrowly with respect to sex they are doing the same things they used to. Male and female genital mutilation. Women as property. And slavery. Almost all those customs that I've ever tracked down are colored by pre-Islamic practices. Islam allows these practices.
I think you're mistaken about one thing: those practices existed before Islam, so they're not original to Islam, but unlike Bacha Bazi - they have an actual basis in the religion and are not just allowed, but either mandated or encouraged.
There was no male or female genital mutilation in Persia, Asia Minor, North Africa before Islam.
I'll defer to you on all that.... Obviously Islam spread male circumcision (MGM). Basically all of them practice that to this day. I would be interested to know more about FGM. All I know is that it is not practiced everywhere that Islam is practiced.