"Pull yourself up by your bootstraps".
I know a guy, diagnosed with a learning impairment at a young age, started working for a farmer in high school, learned a skill from him (farmers have all kinds of skills), went to community college to improve that skill, had various jobs doing construction or demolition, they trained him to operate heavy equipment. He is now making $40/hr, more if he is willing to go bigger, and can't even buy alcohol yet.
So for all those saying it can not be done... YES IT CAN. But it does not happen overnight; it takes willingness to be a servant for a time, motivation to learn and take responsibility, and a vision for what you can do. Attitude makes a huge difference.
I know multiple stories of people working fast food, put in the leadership/manager track. Once you have established manager experience, you can go a lot of places and move up easily.
The key component missing from many young men is mentorship. Older men have been driven out and often favor women (mostly horny SIMPs) for mentorship so its difficult for young men to gain skills as nobody offers them guidance.
That's the real answer. I could make a decent list of success stories that I know personally across about any age up to my own (low 40s). Common factor? All had their dads around as well as other positive male influences.
I think it's partly why I'm biased towards the positive side, as most of these examples are friends and family's kids, and I'm really only friends with men. So by default it's kids of men that are still around and have other men around. Most of them love me because I treat them with respect even when they are young, because that's how the men around my dad and grandad did me when I was a kid. That being another factor too, those same people are the ones that can get someone in the door. Having a network is more important than anything, because we all know we aren't getting past an AI automated HR system.
Yes a network is an important factor. For instance, my dad is successful making money but has zero professional network as his industry now relies on massive bureaucracy to gain employment in. In other words, he can't understand why the only staff he gets now are dei hires and it's useless for a white guy like me to apply.
The biggest issue facing young white men is a lack of guidance and leadership. And often its their own dads and family/friends that aren't helping them, like for example sending them to college and debt, and offering advice for a world that doesn't exist. Men have failed hard in the west, because while they were off making money, their enemy destroyed the home they left unattended.
The problem is that this guy got an opportunity. These days if you aren't an immigrant from the in-group preference ethnicities you are going to be expected to be perfect and even then they'll replace you with someone who admits they have zero experience in the field and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.
I have 5 years of experience in medicine and teaching and not only can I not get a nursing job anywhere despite the apparent "shortage" but I was replaced at a medical teaching job with a lady whose only experience was scheduling. They also kept trying to fill these teaching positions with minorities despite them never lasting for more than a few months because they sucked at their jobs or left.
How are people today going to do well if they go to school and the teaching is shit. They go to the workplace and the management is shit and won't hire actual talent or experienced individuals and rarely give chances to people that do have those. It's great that you acquaintance managed to get success but it seems more luck that he avoided DEI mandated pitfalls than because he kept trying. DEI has vaporized most people's reasons for continuing to try since you can try as hard as you can... they still want you replaced with their in-group ethnicity.
How many years of working at $40/hr would be required to buy a median house where this guy lives? Because ultimately the dollar amount matters less than the purchasing power.
An experiment I did the other day I found very informative was to "forward-test" my early 20s to see if what I did then would pencil out today. I inflation-adjusted what I made at the time and looked at present market values for apartments I lived in and houses I owned to determine if I could have made it all work today. And I found I couldn't, and it wasn't even close.
After that little experiment I decided I'm completely unqualified to give someone currently in their early 20s advice on what to do.
When I was in my 20s, I watched the next "class" after me get destroyed by the 2008 recession. I don't know if this was accurate, but it felt very sharp. On one side was me, doing the things you would expect but doing "well" at them. Meanwhile the next gen trying to do the same thing would be unable to get a job. Thus making it very difficult to get started.
At the same time, a house in California was already pushing a million dollars, so I knew what the score was. In that respect, we were both screwed.
Most of the people I knew who were crushed in '08 were in their early 30s. More expensive than us young guys, with families which made their financial situation less flexible.
"Pull yourself up by your bootstraps".
I know a guy, diagnosed with a learning impairment at a young age, started working for a farmer in high school, learned a skill from him (farmers have all kinds of skills), went to community college to improve that skill, had various jobs doing construction or demolition, they trained him to operate heavy equipment. He is now making $40/hr, more if he is willing to go bigger, and can't even buy alcohol yet.
So for all those saying it can not be done... YES IT CAN. But it does not happen overnight; it takes willingness to be a servant for a time, motivation to learn and take responsibility, and a vision for what you can do. Attitude makes a huge difference.
I know multiple stories of people working fast food, put in the leadership/manager track. Once you have established manager experience, you can go a lot of places and move up easily.
The key component missing from many young men is mentorship. Older men have been driven out and often favor women (mostly horny SIMPs) for mentorship so its difficult for young men to gain skills as nobody offers them guidance.
That's the real answer. I could make a decent list of success stories that I know personally across about any age up to my own (low 40s). Common factor? All had their dads around as well as other positive male influences.
I think it's partly why I'm biased towards the positive side, as most of these examples are friends and family's kids, and I'm really only friends with men. So by default it's kids of men that are still around and have other men around. Most of them love me because I treat them with respect even when they are young, because that's how the men around my dad and grandad did me when I was a kid. That being another factor too, those same people are the ones that can get someone in the door. Having a network is more important than anything, because we all know we aren't getting past an AI automated HR system.
Yes a network is an important factor. For instance, my dad is successful making money but has zero professional network as his industry now relies on massive bureaucracy to gain employment in. In other words, he can't understand why the only staff he gets now are dei hires and it's useless for a white guy like me to apply.
The biggest issue facing young white men is a lack of guidance and leadership. And often its their own dads and family/friends that aren't helping them, like for example sending them to college and debt, and offering advice for a world that doesn't exist. Men have failed hard in the west, because while they were off making money, their enemy destroyed the home they left unattended.
The problem is that this guy got an opportunity. These days if you aren't an immigrant from the in-group preference ethnicities you are going to be expected to be perfect and even then they'll replace you with someone who admits they have zero experience in the field and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.
I have 5 years of experience in medicine and teaching and not only can I not get a nursing job anywhere despite the apparent "shortage" but I was replaced at a medical teaching job with a lady whose only experience was scheduling. They also kept trying to fill these teaching positions with minorities despite them never lasting for more than a few months because they sucked at their jobs or left.
How are people today going to do well if they go to school and the teaching is shit. They go to the workplace and the management is shit and won't hire actual talent or experienced individuals and rarely give chances to people that do have those. It's great that you acquaintance managed to get success but it seems more luck that he avoided DEI mandated pitfalls than because he kept trying. DEI has vaporized most people's reasons for continuing to try since you can try as hard as you can... they still want you replaced with their in-group ethnicity.
How are the chances now if you are a cis huwite male, all entry level manual labor jobs are given to Mexicans and blacks, tech jobs given to pajeets.
How many years of working at $40/hr would be required to buy a median house where this guy lives? Because ultimately the dollar amount matters less than the purchasing power.
An experiment I did the other day I found very informative was to "forward-test" my early 20s to see if what I did then would pencil out today. I inflation-adjusted what I made at the time and looked at present market values for apartments I lived in and houses I owned to determine if I could have made it all work today. And I found I couldn't, and it wasn't even close.
After that little experiment I decided I'm completely unqualified to give someone currently in their early 20s advice on what to do.
When I was in my 20s, I watched the next "class" after me get destroyed by the 2008 recession. I don't know if this was accurate, but it felt very sharp. On one side was me, doing the things you would expect but doing "well" at them. Meanwhile the next gen trying to do the same thing would be unable to get a job. Thus making it very difficult to get started.
At the same time, a house in California was already pushing a million dollars, so I knew what the score was. In that respect, we were both screwed.
Most of the people I knew who were crushed in '08 were in their early 30s. More expensive than us young guys, with families which made their financial situation less flexible.
But what if I want to be mad more than I want to be successful. Can't I just bitch on the internet forever?