It's possible for undetectable aliens to exist AND for us to extinct ourselves through technology or other mass destruction.
It's not a false premise at all, you're simply grasping for any means not to address the real issues (because you know I'm right).
I used homegrown smallpox as an example because it's a real possibility today, this moment. Are you're going to be okay with your 'eccentric' neighbor working away in total privacy on his hobby nuclear bomb, or would you insist something be done about that?
As I said initially, every year individuals become more powerful and so more dangerous to even civilization itself. At some point even a nuclear bomb will be an easy build, so your position surely cannot be "for all time". How long can we allow individuals to do whatever they want in private?
Are you're going to be okay with your 'eccentric' neighbor working away in total privacy on his hobby nuclear bomb.
I am absolutely ok with that, because there needs to be a massive reduction in population, and at least small pox doesn't care who dies.
More importantly, a society that keeps kicking people out and hurting them until they have nothing but hatred left deserve to end. A society that keeps bringing diverse groups together, which inevitably results in conflict deserves to end. But none of those things will end humanity. At most they might destroy a nation.
The only thing that can end humanity is exhaustion of easy energy leaving humanity trapped at the bottom of the gravity well. And that problem is solved by removing useless eaters, the services circlejerk, and the brown swarm.
I am absolutely ok with [my 'eccentric' neighbor working away in total privacy on his hobby nuclear bomb]
Well you're insane then. A nuclear bomb going off in a city is likely to end civilization.
You guys have apparently no concept of how close to armageddon we are. You should read up on history where one Soviet commander just refused to launch nuclear weapons even though he was trained and required to in response to an alert. These close calls have happened several times and that's with whole governments working to prevent them. Put that power into your random mental case and it's game over.
Also biological agents destroying America or other major power could easily lead to the end of civilization.
But even so you think with technology 200 years from now we're going to have the same privacy we do today? I sure hope not because we'll all be dead.
If your society is kicking out the people capable of building nuclear weapons or synthesizing extinct bacteria, then that society isn't worth preserving. You just don't fucking get that.
Nevermind the problems with claiming that some lone wolf individual is capable of building a factory capable of synthesizing 2 kg of plutonium without being noticed all by himself, while also being competent enough to recalculate all the explosive lenses and assembling it all by himself and THEN transporting it to a target without setting off the radiation detectors that are pretty much everywhere.
society isn't worth preserving. You just don't fucking get that.
Oh I get it. You believe "there needs to be a massive reduction in population" and society isn't worth preserving unless you can build mass destruction weapons in privacy.
In other words you are exactly the kind of person who should be monitored and kept track of by these agencies.
the problems with claiming that some lone wolf individual ... competent enough to recalculate all the explosive lenses
THEN transporting it to a target without setting off the radiation detectors
Buy a house in the city and build it there, not even to mention that "radiation detectors" are invading your privacy. Would you still support your same policy if people could use it to build civilization-ending weapons? "But they can't do that now".
You're one of those people who apparently can't understand hypotheticals - we'll never know how you'd feel if you didn't eat breakfast unless you actually skip breakfast that day.
I said "a" Great Filter situation.
It's possible for undetectable aliens to exist AND for us to extinct ourselves through technology or other mass destruction.
It's not a false premise at all, you're simply grasping for any means not to address the real issues (because you know I'm right).
I used homegrown smallpox as an example because it's a real possibility today, this moment. Are you're going to be okay with your 'eccentric' neighbor working away in total privacy on his hobby nuclear bomb, or would you insist something be done about that?
As I said initially, every year individuals become more powerful and so more dangerous to even civilization itself. At some point even a nuclear bomb will be an easy build, so your position surely cannot be "for all time". How long can we allow individuals to do whatever they want in private?
I am absolutely ok with that, because there needs to be a massive reduction in population, and at least small pox doesn't care who dies.
More importantly, a society that keeps kicking people out and hurting them until they have nothing but hatred left deserve to end. A society that keeps bringing diverse groups together, which inevitably results in conflict deserves to end. But none of those things will end humanity. At most they might destroy a nation.
The only thing that can end humanity is exhaustion of easy energy leaving humanity trapped at the bottom of the gravity well. And that problem is solved by removing useless eaters, the services circlejerk, and the brown swarm.
Well you're insane then. A nuclear bomb going off in a city is likely to end civilization.
You guys have apparently no concept of how close to armageddon we are. You should read up on history where one Soviet commander just refused to launch nuclear weapons even though he was trained and required to in response to an alert. These close calls have happened several times and that's with whole governments working to prevent them. Put that power into your random mental case and it's game over.
Also biological agents destroying America or other major power could easily lead to the end of civilization.
But even so you think with technology 200 years from now we're going to have the same privacy we do today? I sure hope not because we'll all be dead.
If your society is kicking out the people capable of building nuclear weapons or synthesizing extinct bacteria, then that society isn't worth preserving. You just don't fucking get that.
Nevermind the problems with claiming that some lone wolf individual is capable of building a factory capable of synthesizing 2 kg of plutonium without being noticed all by himself, while also being competent enough to recalculate all the explosive lenses and assembling it all by himself and THEN transporting it to a target without setting off the radiation detectors that are pretty much everywhere.
And you call me insane.
Oh I get it. You believe "there needs to be a massive reduction in population" and society isn't worth preserving unless you can build mass destruction weapons in privacy.
In other words you are exactly the kind of person who should be monitored and kept track of by these agencies.
Yeah, that could never happen
Buy a house in the city and build it there, not even to mention that "radiation detectors" are invading your privacy. Would you still support your same policy if people could use it to build civilization-ending weapons? "But they can't do that now".
You're one of those people who apparently can't understand hypotheticals - we'll never know how you'd feel if you didn't eat breakfast unless you actually skip breakfast that day.