It's hilarious how much of a boiled frog you are. Musk isn't on the Right and he never has been. He's a life-long ""classical"" liberal and hasn't changed in that regard. Stop viewing politics as a relativist. Just because he's not in line with the modern left does not make him on the right. And the same with Trump. The enemy of my enemy is not in fact my friend. Stop falling for the lie of a "lesser" evil.
The more you operate on reactionary logic like that, the more you will inevitably and unendingly compromise on every value you hold, just like every other republican/conservative over the past century. Todays conservatives are yesterdays democrats, and it has been that way for a very long time. Most conservatives these days are barely even on the Right.
You're operating on the Overton Window. At best, Elon and Trump are centrists.
But it's funny that reading between the lines of what you wrote is just more pro-establishment bullshittery, you just want your own flavour of statism. It's not the authoritarianism that's the issue to you, it's the colour of the banners on the walls.
Sit down and be quiet, you're talking to the wrong person. I've just had to spend two days explaining why Elon Musk wasn't pretending to be a White Nationalist to backpaddling groypers.
I understand you don't know that I'm talking to MetallicBioMeat about Italian Elite Theory because there are elites in society, and that political movements need powerful and influential people on our side; otherwise, even populist revolutions will always die; but it doesn't excuse you from coming to me and giving me the most basic bitch "akshully conservatism is progressives going the speed limit" shit I could have gotten from watching Dave Rubin.
You spent the last couple of days being wrong and getting called out for it, but the fact you think you somehow had the upper hand in any of those exchanges is hilariously delusional.
"No please, I'm actually ahead of you, I'm not the retard, it's all you!!!!!!"
Fuck off Giz, you're a stock standard statist begging for more of the problem. You're literally begging to bend the knee and serve because "we need them".
You're an unironic bootlicker demanding everyone else also turn around and beg the elites for scraps. You're not in front of anyone else, you've just given up and say that everyone else should give up and bend the knee too.
Aw, that's cute. You had nothing to say because you know that you're bending the knee, so you pretend you're an adult for treating the government like your parent.
It truly is amazing how quickly a statist reveals their true nature.
No, because I already know AA's opinion as it was forming. I get the argument, but he takes it too far and asserts that there is never populism. Honestly, if that were the case, Democracy as a weapon wouldn't even be used as a method of control. It's pretty clear that if politicians are panicking over twitter spats, manipulating the general sentiment is a big deal. Losing control of it means losing power.
Fundamentally: power is illusory. It only works when people agree to let it work. As such, manipulating sentiment is a critical component to any tyranny.
It's hilarious how much of a boiled frog you are. Musk isn't on the Right and he never has been. He's a life-long ""classical"" liberal and hasn't changed in that regard. Stop viewing politics as a relativist. Just because he's not in line with the modern left does not make him on the right. And the same with Trump. The enemy of my enemy is not in fact my friend. Stop falling for the lie of a "lesser" evil.
The more you operate on reactionary logic like that, the more you will inevitably and unendingly compromise on every value you hold, just like every other republican/conservative over the past century. Todays conservatives are yesterdays democrats, and it has been that way for a very long time. Most conservatives these days are barely even on the Right.
You're operating on the Overton Window. At best, Elon and Trump are centrists.
But it's funny that reading between the lines of what you wrote is just more pro-establishment bullshittery, you just want your own flavour of statism. It's not the authoritarianism that's the issue to you, it's the colour of the banners on the walls.
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Careful, he might call you a Fabian Socialist if you keep refuting him. Then he'll really show you!
The irony of calling anyone a Fabian Socialist when he himself is the one being boiled.
Sit down and be quiet, you're talking to the wrong person. I've just had to spend two days explaining why Elon Musk wasn't pretending to be a White Nationalist to backpaddling groypers.
I understand you don't know that I'm talking to MetallicBioMeat about Italian Elite Theory because there are elites in society, and that political movements need powerful and influential people on our side; otherwise, even populist revolutions will always die; but it doesn't excuse you from coming to me and giving me the most basic bitch "akshully conservatism is progressives going the speed limit" shit I could have gotten from watching Dave Rubin.
You're about 5-7 years behind me.
You spent the last couple of days being wrong and getting called out for it, but the fact you think you somehow had the upper hand in any of those exchanges is hilariously delusional.
I've been right each time, and I've watched you get more retarded each day for no reason.
"No u" isn't a good retort.
"No please, I'm actually ahead of you, I'm not the retard, it's all you!!!!!!"
Fuck off Giz, you're a stock standard statist begging for more of the problem. You're literally begging to bend the knee and serve because "we need them".
You're an unironic bootlicker demanding everyone else also turn around and beg the elites for scraps. You're not in front of anyone else, you've just given up and say that everyone else should give up and bend the knee too.
Shhh. Adults are talking.
Aw, that's cute. You had nothing to say because you know that you're bending the knee, so you pretend you're an adult for treating the government like your parent.
It truly is amazing how quickly a statist reveals their true nature.
You wouldn't happen to have read "The Populist Delusion" would you?
No, because I already know AA's opinion as it was forming. I get the argument, but he takes it too far and asserts that there is never populism. Honestly, if that were the case, Democracy as a weapon wouldn't even be used as a method of control. It's pretty clear that if politicians are panicking over twitter spats, manipulating the general sentiment is a big deal. Losing control of it means losing power.
Fundamentally: power is illusory. It only works when people agree to let it work. As such, manipulating sentiment is a critical component to any tyranny.