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I've been playing Pathfinder WOTR with the wokeless mod and it turns out the game is good, not perfect but very much enjoyable to the point where I'm starting to think the devs are not really woke and it was just paizo that made demands on the amount of LGBT, race diversity and strong females.
I doubt any amount of mods can save this game, it's not just the trans stuff, it looks woke in every video and screen shots I've seen.
I liked pathfinder kingmaker a lot, still working through it. Though it does have a whole "patriarchy can't handle stronk woman" storyline it is thankfully not a a large part of an overall really well done game.
The one bisexual character in the game is chaotic evil which is pretty appropriate and there is a dialogue option to threaten to punch him in the face after he hits on you if he does it again.
WOTR is on my backlog for after I finish kingmaker AND rogue trader (so probably not until 2030)
I couldn't get in to kingmaker at all. Maybe I'll give it a try again, I found most characters to be either uninteresting or straight up disliking them. I played with mercenaries for a while but got bored.
Also the feminism parts are just to much in your face.
WOTR is considerably worse in term of wokenes, one of the first characters you interact are an ugly black female paladin and a tranny that is in a lesbian relation but with the wokeless mode is considerably better then kingmaker. Outside of a few noticing on gender power dynamics it does feel like an actual medieval fantasy rather then modern day California with swords and sorcery.
I guess my liberalism calibration is set to the 90s so the feminism stuff doesn't bother me as much as long as it is "in character". It is true that one of the first companion characters you get lays it on thick but it is so on the nose that I just consider her a parody and it works perfectly.
I never played divinity original sin or really many other party rpgs after the 90s/early 2000s but this one feels like it most closely captures the feel of Baldur's Gate 2.
Feminism in the 90s was having some women fighters and it was not very outrageous. Like Mazzy or Jaheira having less strength then male fighters.
Here seemed very much forced, the barbarian chick tried so hard to be just a stereotypical barbarian that was just cringe. At the start you had to save people but every woman was saving herself already or how top leadership seemed to be largely women.
You can say WOTR also has some of this issues but maybe I've started tolerating them more.
Both are kind of racist as there is no white male companion in an European Medieval Fantasy section where they should be the majority of characters. This is just paizo being paizo.