Am I? If Jews are overrepresented within certain issues should I just not talk about that fact? What about Blacks? Pakis? Women? Muslims?
No, you can, but what is your point?
Scapegoating would mean that Jews aren't actively involved in those problems.
Actually, scapegoating is exactly this: pinning problems that are common to various groups, and pretending that it's just Jews who are the problem. Of course, if you replace Jewish elites with white elites, absolutely nothing will change but you will go on a "We did it, Reddit!" victory tour.
So tell me how are you going to fix the problem if you will not talk about those organisations let alone hold them accountable for fear of being called anti-semitic?
I don't see the issue. Hold bad organizations accountable. You don't seem to be very interested in doing that. You just want to attack organizations that you perceive as being 'Jewish', even though they are nothing more than Democratic Party interest groups.
What about Muslim immigrants in Europe? They too are extremely overrepresented in violent crimes. Should we just ignore it because otherwise we would scapegoat Muslims for it?
Violent crime is largely a Muslim and immigrant issue in Europe. Also, they should not be here to begin with. So that is quite easy to take care of.
So why is it different for Jews? Why are you not allowed to talk about it? Why do you risk of being de-platformed and financially ruined if you do, when it's not supposedly just a conspiracy theory?
As far as I know, no one has been 'deplatformed' for simply pointing out that Jews seem to be disproportionately represented among the woke. Maybe for saying "the Holohoax was a lie and it's too bad that it wasn't real", but not for innocuous comments... which somehow seem to be only one step removed for some from something like that.
it's not fine to point out that Judaism considers every non-Jew as non-human cattle.
It's not true, for one. But feel free to criticize Judaism as much as you want, even on false pretenses - the same happens much more to Christianity.
Perhaps Judaism has severe issues just like Islam, just like Christianity, just like Blacks, Pakistanis or Latinos that lead to certain behavior. But we're not allowed to talk about it because "muh holocaust".
Except that in the past year, we've seen an outpouring of the most vile anti-Jewish hate that you can imagine. People on this site were cheering the Hamas atrocities of October 7... the same people who accuse Jews of 'white genocide' actually support the mass murder of Jews themselves.
Given all this, how ridiculous is it to assert that the quite innocuous claims you made on this thread are something that you are "not allowed to talk about". Or is there something more?
If nepotism is extremely prevalent in a group you can't ignore that nepotism.
Actually, scapegoating is exactly this: pinning problems that are common to various groups, and pretending that it's just Jews who are the problem. Of course, if you replace Jewish elites with white elites, absolutely nothing will change but you will go on a "We did it, Reddit!" victory tour.
If one specific ethnic group is vastly overrepresentated in causing certain problems, then it's not scapegoating to point it out. Like Blacks and violent crime. Or Gypsies and neighborhoods drowning in trash.
You can ignore that institutions like Black Rock or Hollywood are spearheading wokeism but it doesn't change anything about the fact that Jews are overpresentated and hold incredible influence and power to push such agendas. When you're saying that Jews control finance and then you get your bank accounts closed... let's just say it's confirmation.
Actually, scapegoating is exactly this: pinning problems that are common to various groups, and pretending that it's just Jews who are the problem. Of course, if you replace Jewish elites with white elites, absolutely nothing will change but you will go on a "We did it, Reddit!" victory tour.
Oh, don't worry I don't think it's just Jews who are the problem. I don't even see Jewish influence as the root cause of today's issues. I'm just pointing out that Jews like to push these agendas more than everyone else. Jews could disappear over night and the underlying problems wouldn't be permanently resolved.
I don't see the issue. Hold bad organizations accountable. You don't seem to be very interested in doing that. You just want to attack organizations that you perceive as being 'Jewish', even though they are nothing more than Democratic Party interest groups.
You are accusing me of blaming everything on "da jooz" while you're blaming everything on the Democrats. We both know what Republicans and Democrats are two sides of the same coin. Both parties are being financed by the same people. Even if we disagree on who those people might be.
But anyway, attacking organisations that have very deep connections to media, press, finance, politics and industry without addressing those connections is kinda pointless.
As far as I know, no one has been 'deplatformed' for simply pointing out that Jews seem to be disproportionately represented among the woke. Maybe for saying "the Holohoax was a lie and it's too bad that it wasn't real", but not for innocuous comments... which somehow seem to be only one step removed for some from something like that.
Seemingly every criticism of Judaism is very close to the Holocaust. Quite strange. Also why exactly is Holocaust denial illegal in many countries and will be punished with prison time?
It's not true, for one.
It is. How many rabbis should I dig up that openly state so?
Except that in the past year, we've seen an outpouring of the most vile anti-Jewish hate that you can imagine. People on this site were cheering the Hamas atrocities of October 7... the same people who accuse Jews of 'white genocide' actually support the mass murder of Jews themselves.
It sure is funny how American universities and governments passionately pushed the anti-white agenda for decades but once their students became anti-Israel those same students were suddenly a problem. Or like TikTok not being a problem until October 7th and then turning into public enemy number one.
There are quite a few Jews who openly push anti-white hate. Even demanding a white genocide. And as that behavior isn't being called out by the Jewish community at large it's not exactly surprising that some white people develop hate for Jews. Also atrocity propaganda like 40 beheaded babies don't exactly make people sympathetic.
If your group doesn't disavow actions of individuals and doesn't actively try to combat that behavior but perhaps even accepts the privileges this behavior creates, then sooner or later your entire group will be held responsible. That's inevitable. That rule applies to every group.
Is it?
I don't know. Ask Hollywood. Or the current White House staff.
If one specific ethnic group is vastly overrepresentated in causing certain problems, then it's not scapegoating to point it out. Like Blacks and violent crime. Or Gypsies and neighborhoods drowning in trash.
And then what? Blacks and violent crime has solutions. What is the solution for your Jew issue.
You are accusing me of blaming everything on "da jooz" while you're blaming everything on the Democrats.
Not at all. Democrats aren't even 'the guy behind the curtain'. They're just the bastion of elite and establishment interests.
Seemingly every criticism of Judaism is very close to the Holocaust
To whom? Hitchens, Harris, etc. all criticized Judaism and there was no such reaction. Do you have any examples where 'criticism of Judaism' is equated to the Holocaust?
Also why exactly is Holocaust denial illegal in many countries and will be punished with prison time?
You tell me what you want to suggest.
It is. How many rabbis should I dig up that openly state so?
Of the tens of thousands of rabbis? Quite a lot actually.
And as that behavior isn't being called out by the Jewish community at large it's not exactly surprising that some white people develop hate for Jews.
'White' hatred for Jews long preceded Jewish 'advocacy for white genocide'.
I don't know. Ask Hollywood. Or the current White House staff.
You don't know? You sure can't demonstrate your claims.
And then what? Blacks and violent crime has solutions. What is the solution for your Jew issue.
Easy. Don't allow people in positions of power that put ethnic loyalty over national loyalty. Also fixes the problem of Indians only hiring Indians in western companies. It's definitely an easier fix than Blacks and violent crimes.
They're just the bastion of elite and establishment interests.
THE bastion? We both know that that's not true.
To whom? Hitchens, Harris, etc. all criticized Judaism and there was no such reaction. Do you have any examples where 'criticism of Judaism' is equated to the Holocaust?
The holocaust card is Israels preferred defense.
Of the tens of thousands of rabbis? Quite a lot actually.
Guess you won't give Islam the same courtesy. And before you retort with the Quran let's not forget the Talmud. But not to discriminate the First Testament is also very nice.
'White' hatred for Jews long preceded Jewish 'advocacy for white genocide'.
The eternal victims who never did nuthin. The opening of the gates of Toledo was also just a response to the mean treatment by the Spanish. Just like Blacks only act they way they do because of slavery.
Easy. Don't allow people in positions of power that put ethnic loyalty over national loyalty.
And how do you test people to see if they put ethnic loyalty above something else?
THE bastion? We both know that that's not true.
The bastion as the GOP has at least some anti-establishment voices.
The holocaust card is Israels preferred defense.
You moved the goalposts. We'll get to Israel if you want, but you were claiming that any criticism of Judaism is compared to the Holocaust.
Guess you won't give Islam the same courtesy. And before you retort with the Quran let's not forget the Talmud. But not to discriminate the First Testament is also very nice.
I give Islam the same courtesy as Judaism: to judge them by their behavior.
The opening of the gates of Toledo was also just a response to the mean treatment by the Spanish. Just like Blacks only act they way they do because of slavery.
No, probably just because most areas in Spain reached accommodation with the invaders rather than be devastated. The same thing happened in Egypt and other places... where this grave mistake actually was the result of Byzantine persecution of Monophysites.
No, you can, but what is your point?
Actually, scapegoating is exactly this: pinning problems that are common to various groups, and pretending that it's just Jews who are the problem. Of course, if you replace Jewish elites with white elites, absolutely nothing will change but you will go on a "We did it, Reddit!" victory tour.
I don't see the issue. Hold bad organizations accountable. You don't seem to be very interested in doing that. You just want to attack organizations that you perceive as being 'Jewish', even though they are nothing more than Democratic Party interest groups.
Violent crime is largely a Muslim and immigrant issue in Europe. Also, they should not be here to begin with. So that is quite easy to take care of.
As far as I know, no one has been 'deplatformed' for simply pointing out that Jews seem to be disproportionately represented among the woke. Maybe for saying "the Holohoax was a lie and it's too bad that it wasn't real", but not for innocuous comments... which somehow seem to be only one step removed for some from something like that.
It's not true, for one. But feel free to criticize Judaism as much as you want, even on false pretenses - the same happens much more to Christianity.
Except that in the past year, we've seen an outpouring of the most vile anti-Jewish hate that you can imagine. People on this site were cheering the Hamas atrocities of October 7... the same people who accuse Jews of 'white genocide' actually support the mass murder of Jews themselves.
Given all this, how ridiculous is it to assert that the quite innocuous claims you made on this thread are something that you are "not allowed to talk about". Or is there something more?
Is it?
If one specific ethnic group is vastly overrepresentated in causing certain problems, then it's not scapegoating to point it out. Like Blacks and violent crime. Or Gypsies and neighborhoods drowning in trash.
You can ignore that institutions like Black Rock or Hollywood are spearheading wokeism but it doesn't change anything about the fact that Jews are overpresentated and hold incredible influence and power to push such agendas. When you're saying that Jews control finance and then you get your bank accounts closed... let's just say it's confirmation.
Oh, don't worry I don't think it's just Jews who are the problem. I don't even see Jewish influence as the root cause of today's issues. I'm just pointing out that Jews like to push these agendas more than everyone else. Jews could disappear over night and the underlying problems wouldn't be permanently resolved.
You are accusing me of blaming everything on "da jooz" while you're blaming everything on the Democrats. We both know what Republicans and Democrats are two sides of the same coin. Both parties are being financed by the same people. Even if we disagree on who those people might be.
But anyway, attacking organisations that have very deep connections to media, press, finance, politics and industry without addressing those connections is kinda pointless.
Seemingly every criticism of Judaism is very close to the Holocaust. Quite strange. Also why exactly is Holocaust denial illegal in many countries and will be punished with prison time?
It is. How many rabbis should I dig up that openly state so?
It sure is funny how American universities and governments passionately pushed the anti-white agenda for decades but once their students became anti-Israel those same students were suddenly a problem. Or like TikTok not being a problem until October 7th and then turning into public enemy number one.
There are quite a few Jews who openly push anti-white hate. Even demanding a white genocide. And as that behavior isn't being called out by the Jewish community at large it's not exactly surprising that some white people develop hate for Jews. Also atrocity propaganda like 40 beheaded babies don't exactly make people sympathetic.
If your group doesn't disavow actions of individuals and doesn't actively try to combat that behavior but perhaps even accepts the privileges this behavior creates, then sooner or later your entire group will be held responsible. That's inevitable. That rule applies to every group.
I don't know. Ask Hollywood. Or the current White House staff.
And then what? Blacks and violent crime has solutions. What is the solution for your Jew issue.
Not at all. Democrats aren't even 'the guy behind the curtain'. They're just the bastion of elite and establishment interests.
To whom? Hitchens, Harris, etc. all criticized Judaism and there was no such reaction. Do you have any examples where 'criticism of Judaism' is equated to the Holocaust?
You tell me what you want to suggest.
Of the tens of thousands of rabbis? Quite a lot actually.
'White' hatred for Jews long preceded Jewish 'advocacy for white genocide'.
You don't know? You sure can't demonstrate your claims.
Easy. Don't allow people in positions of power that put ethnic loyalty over national loyalty. Also fixes the problem of Indians only hiring Indians in western companies. It's definitely an easier fix than Blacks and violent crimes.
THE bastion? We both know that that's not true.
The holocaust card is Israels preferred defense.
Guess you won't give Islam the same courtesy. And before you retort with the Quran let's not forget the Talmud. But not to discriminate the First Testament is also very nice.
The eternal victims who never did nuthin. The opening of the gates of Toledo was also just a response to the mean treatment by the Spanish. Just like Blacks only act they way they do because of slavery.
And how do you test people to see if they put ethnic loyalty above something else?
The bastion as the GOP has at least some anti-establishment voices.
You moved the goalposts. We'll get to Israel if you want, but you were claiming that any criticism of Judaism is compared to the Holocaust.
I give Islam the same courtesy as Judaism: to judge them by their behavior.
No, probably just because most areas in Spain reached accommodation with the invaders rather than be devastated. The same thing happened in Egypt and other places... where this grave mistake actually was the result of Byzantine persecution of Monophysites.