Putting aside political beliefs for a moment: Can you recall anyone in our lifetimes, perhaps the lifetime of the country, who has been such a target of shit talk, rumors, lies, lawfare and felony convictions, and literal assassinations? Heck, I remember seeing bar charts that implied MSM outlets gave him anywhere from 10% to 0% positive coverage over the years.
And if you laser focus on the negatives, Trump still doesn't come close to the kind of threats poised by career criminals, clinically insane individuals, groomers, and tyrannical leaders who oversaw the deaths of tens of millions under their watch.
And I still wish Trump would do even 5% of what his enemies fear he will do.
There's only a couple people who ever got close to being attacked this hard. They don't normally last. Unfortunately, the slander normally works, and as such, the victim either gets imprisoned or dies. On the other hand, a lot of the targets of this level of political aggression are actually people who aren't so innocent.
Randy Weaver (and his family) were quite clearly harassed for at least 9 years until the infamous Ruby Ridge incident. It's a long story, but for the most part, the FBI tried to make him an informant by trying to imprison him, failed, got into a gunfight, caused a complete shit show, and ended up shooting 2 additional family members from a sniper in one of the single greatest American shit-shows in all of Law Enforcement history. Randy's harassment was much lighter than Trump's most of the time, people literally harassing him verbally to his face, and working with the local government to make his life harder. He wasn't a big public figure so there wasn't a ton of slander before hand, and not much lawfare.
Alex Jones obviously comes to mind because he was the mock-run for Trump. But even then, Alex has only been pursued with lawfare around the Sandy Hook stuff. He's been slandered, but the amount of lawfare is much less than Trump.
After a certain point, we actually have to start looking into Leftist groups to find this level of lawfare and slander. There are some members of the Black Liberation Army that were legally pursued this bad... but they were actual terrorists that committed bank robberies, assassinated state's witnesses, and even murdered a judge. In other cases you have to go back to the early WW1 anti-war Socialists who were being locked up for protesting the war and things like that, but even they were less publicly defamed.
Really, Trump is a unique case because he's survived the longest, the defamation hasn't worked, and he's genuinely innocent.
I think you're conflating Jewel's story with someone else. He was accussed by the FBI and they tried all their shitty tactics to get him to give up his rights and confess to a crime he didn't commit. But he was never charged, the feds even released a statement acknowledging he was never formally connected to or charged with a bombing, it was a CYA move.
But he didn't kill himself he died from diabetes. He also got a public apology from Janet Reno. The FBI certainly treated him unfairly. I'm sure their methods caused some sap to self terminate but it weren't Jewell.
Putting aside political beliefs for a moment: Can you recall anyone in our lifetimes, perhaps the lifetime of the country, who has been such a target of shit talk, rumors, lies, lawfare and felony convictions, and literal assassinations? Heck, I remember seeing bar charts that implied MSM outlets gave him anywhere from 10% to 0% positive coverage over the years.
And if you laser focus on the negatives, Trump still doesn't come close to the kind of threats poised by career criminals, clinically insane individuals, groomers, and tyrannical leaders who oversaw the deaths of tens of millions under their watch.
And I still wish Trump would do even 5% of what his enemies fear he will do.
There's only a couple people who ever got close to being attacked this hard. They don't normally last. Unfortunately, the slander normally works, and as such, the victim either gets imprisoned or dies. On the other hand, a lot of the targets of this level of political aggression are actually people who aren't so innocent.
Randy Weaver (and his family) were quite clearly harassed for at least 9 years until the infamous Ruby Ridge incident. It's a long story, but for the most part, the FBI tried to make him an informant by trying to imprison him, failed, got into a gunfight, caused a complete shit show, and ended up shooting 2 additional family members from a sniper in one of the single greatest American shit-shows in all of Law Enforcement history. Randy's harassment was much lighter than Trump's most of the time, people literally harassing him verbally to his face, and working with the local government to make his life harder. He wasn't a big public figure so there wasn't a ton of slander before hand, and not much lawfare.
Alex Jones obviously comes to mind because he was the mock-run for Trump. But even then, Alex has only been pursued with lawfare around the Sandy Hook stuff. He's been slandered, but the amount of lawfare is much less than Trump.
After a certain point, we actually have to start looking into Leftist groups to find this level of lawfare and slander. There are some members of the Black Liberation Army that were legally pursued this bad... but they were actual terrorists that committed bank robberies, assassinated state's witnesses, and even murdered a judge. In other cases you have to go back to the early WW1 anti-war Socialists who were being locked up for protesting the war and things like that, but even they were less publicly defamed.
Really, Trump is a unique case because he's survived the longest, the defamation hasn't worked, and he's genuinely innocent.
I think you're conflating Jewel's story with someone else. He was accussed by the FBI and they tried all their shitty tactics to get him to give up his rights and confess to a crime he didn't commit. But he was never charged, the feds even released a statement acknowledging he was never formally connected to or charged with a bombing, it was a CYA move.
But he didn't kill himself he died from diabetes. He also got a public apology from Janet Reno. The FBI certainly treated him unfairly. I'm sure their methods caused some sap to self terminate but it weren't Jewell.
Yeah, fuck, I must have completely missed that. Thanks for pointing that out.