Reality shows are... not exactly a good example, since they're more ingrained with a particular format or structure than a strict setting. As for why they're still so rampant, a lot of that can be attributed to low production costs and a particularly effective appeal to women.
They've essentially overtaken what used to be reserved for sitcoms and gameshows. Low cost and minimal effort to make, minimal conflict, low effort on plot (generally), sometimes episodic in nature (due to minimal plot), etc. A fair bit more braindead than some of the better sitcoms in the past though.
I wasn't talking about "reality show" as a genre. It's a medium.
I'm talking about the shows themselves, including game shows.
Survior had been on the air for 24 years. Amazing Race almost as long.
Game shows have had worse scandals than almost any industry and have a core set that have endured for nearly 30 years, and countless new versions and varients. Not a single one has failed and then had "genre fatigue" be blamed.
Because people don't get tired of what they enjoy. The "New shiny" phenomenon is one of distraction, not boredom. Producers and taste makers decide what get's made, not consumers. And if one of their ideas fails, well "genre fatigue" is a great unfalsifiable excuse.
Never mind that your version sucked ass because you're retarded. People don't hate star wars because sci fi is old. And they don't hate concord because FPSs are passe.
Is there Sports Fatigue? Romance Novel Fatigue? Skate Park Fatigue?
Of course not. The only things with "fatigue" are the ones where some worthless swill of humanity can blame their failure on it.
You really think that Marvel's decline is because people hate super heroes all of a sudden? Sure took a long time. A good 65 years. It's cause the movies are garbage. They were always garbage, but now they're even worse.
But you can't admit to making crap and shovelware. it has to be "Market conditions" and "shifts in taste" and "genre fatigue."
Aye, those are some fair points. And you're right. If someone likes something, a lot, they're rarely going to get completely burned out on it. Or at least not enough to abandon it completely, generally.
And while I thought I'd been arguing in good faith, I admit I may not have been aware of my own clouded bias. Just because I don't really dig a lot of those earlier Western films doesn't mean that a lot of other people with perfectly good taste couldn't.
I do think that there can be at least some degree of genre fatigue though, but it's probably something that has to be especially over-saturated to cause any kind of significant audience "burnout". Usually, the average person just naturally addresses such things by changing things up with their own variety in what kind of media they partake in.
Not so easy of course when leftists have done everything they can to turn things to shit.
I can see it existing as a function of something being forced. Becoming tired of movies because they're all propaganda.
Which is an angle I hadn't thought of until this last comment you made.
In that case I think it's more a saturation point of something bad, a bit of lead in a well might be survivable for a moment, but long term the quantity you'll tolerate drops lower and lower.
But I think that's different from "Oh everybody loved it too long now they stopped" for something with consistent quality.
Reality shows are... not exactly a good example, since they're more ingrained with a particular format or structure than a strict setting. As for why they're still so rampant, a lot of that can be attributed to low production costs and a particularly effective appeal to women.
They've essentially overtaken what used to be reserved for sitcoms and gameshows. Low cost and minimal effort to make, minimal conflict, low effort on plot (generally), sometimes episodic in nature (due to minimal plot), etc. A fair bit more braindead than some of the better sitcoms in the past though.
Assuming good faith.
I wasn't talking about "reality show" as a genre. It's a medium.
I'm talking about the shows themselves, including game shows.
Survior had been on the air for 24 years. Amazing Race almost as long. Game shows have had worse scandals than almost any industry and have a core set that have endured for nearly 30 years, and countless new versions and varients. Not a single one has failed and then had "genre fatigue" be blamed.
Because people don't get tired of what they enjoy. The "New shiny" phenomenon is one of distraction, not boredom. Producers and taste makers decide what get's made, not consumers. And if one of their ideas fails, well "genre fatigue" is a great unfalsifiable excuse.
Never mind that your version sucked ass because you're retarded. People don't hate star wars because sci fi is old. And they don't hate concord because FPSs are passe.
Is there Sports Fatigue? Romance Novel Fatigue? Skate Park Fatigue?
Of course not. The only things with "fatigue" are the ones where some worthless swill of humanity can blame their failure on it.
You really think that Marvel's decline is because people hate super heroes all of a sudden? Sure took a long time. A good 65 years. It's cause the movies are garbage. They were always garbage, but now they're even worse.
But you can't admit to making crap and shovelware. it has to be "Market conditions" and "shifts in taste" and "genre fatigue."
Aye, those are some fair points. And you're right. If someone likes something, a lot, they're rarely going to get completely burned out on it. Or at least not enough to abandon it completely, generally.
And while I thought I'd been arguing in good faith, I admit I may not have been aware of my own clouded bias. Just because I don't really dig a lot of those earlier Western films doesn't mean that a lot of other people with perfectly good taste couldn't.
I do think that there can be at least some degree of genre fatigue though, but it's probably something that has to be especially over-saturated to cause any kind of significant audience "burnout". Usually, the average person just naturally addresses such things by changing things up with their own variety in what kind of media they partake in.
Not so easy of course when leftists have done everything they can to turn things to shit.
I can see it existing as a function of something being forced. Becoming tired of movies because they're all propaganda.
Which is an angle I hadn't thought of until this last comment you made.
In that case I think it's more a saturation point of something bad, a bit of lead in a well might be survivable for a moment, but long term the quantity you'll tolerate drops lower and lower.
But I think that's different from "Oh everybody loved it too long now they stopped" for something with consistent quality.