Hi there,
It's been a while since I last posted here (I usually don't have anything constructive to say that adds to the conversation), but I've come across a topic of late which I simply have to ask you guys about.
I'm sure that at least a decent amount of the people who browse this forum know of the website called Kiwifarms. If not, I suppose you can google it, though I'm sure you won't get a just description of what that website is all about from the likes of Google. To put it in the simplest terms, Kiwifarms is mainly a gossiping forum about chiefly Internet-celebrities and their often silly shenanigans. These people are called "lolcows", simply because they "produce milk" through their tomfoolery that the users of the website can enjoy (I hate the term "lolcow" by the way: it's apt in describing the "milking of odd and silly people for laughs", but it's such a childish and "edgy" term that I just can't use it seriously).
Other than gossiping and "milking" Internet-personalities for laughs, it's a forum in which you can discuss almost anything. One of the liberating aspects of the website, which is almost unheard of on the Internet nowadays, is that there is no handholding, and that you can say the "n-word" and "tranny" freely. It's basically a haven for political incorrectness, but there is also a generally agreed upon culture and code of conduct on the website that hinders it from spiraling out of control.
What Kiwifarms and this forum has in common, then, as far as I'm concerned at least, is that they both encourage non-politically correct discourse (within reason, of course).
I've browsed and used Kiwifarms for several years now, and since some time ago, I've noticed an ever growing trend taking place on the website, which I find to be deeply unfortunate: radical feminists and what I can only describe as "white knights" are more or less "infiltrating" general discourse on the website in order to hurl accusations about "inceldom" and such. There's a subsection of Kiwifarms called the "Beauty Parlor", in which some part of the clique of radical feminists and white knights seem to be content in keeping the majority of their discourse in. One of the more popular threads in there is the "Man-hate thread", and you wouldn't believe the shit that's said about men in there. All men or anyone who questions the "manhating" discourse is promptly banned, and are mocked by the community of radical feminists and white knights.
I'm not an incel, nor am I a rampant misogynist of any kind, but like many who engage in more politically incorrect and "based" (for a lack of a better word) discourse, I do have my misgivings with modern women, which I've been able to express in a rational way on Kiwifarms before without being "jumped" by irate feminists and white knights.
What's more is that the owner of Kiwifarms, Joshua Connor Moon, seems to clearly be favoring these radical feminists (also called "femoids" in response to their usage of the term "moid", which is a derogatory term by women and soyboys for men) and white knights over any person who wish to tell these very same people to shut the fuck up and to keep their misandry to themselves. He's regularly inserting himself into conversations, lamenting how "woman haters" wants to deny women "the ability to vote and to be able to treat them like sex slaves" and other such nonsense. When the radical feminists receive the odd clapback, Joshua Connor Moon is often there to lambast the silly men of how insecure and pathetic they are for attacking the poor women who have found refuge in his community. Whenever a feminist writes about how much she hates men and how she wish her son was actually a daughter, he doesn't seem to care one bit, and it negatively affects the overall climate of the forum (at least if you're not a radical feminist or soyboy).
Joshua seem to be somewhat "based" in several aspects, but as far as I can tell, he's completely lost the plot in regards to the TERF:s of this world (Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists). It's one thing to support women being trans exclusionary, but he also seems to rejoice in the "radical feminist"-aspect of their little movement as well, which is deeply disappointing. I believe that him being the target of transsexuals, who are attempting to bring down his website through all kinds of underhanded means, have broken his otherwise naive perception of the dynamic of men and women in general. My conclusion is that he believes himself to be a savior of sorts for the women of the world, who have no other place to turn to in order to unload about their hatred of transsexual men. Somehow, this also extends towards being sympathetic towards the women's hatred of men in general, which I just find baffling.
This is one of the trends that I've noticed which I despise. Another sad trend that I've noticed emerging on there is how there's been some sort of development of what I can only describe as an "Anonymous-esque" kind of frenzy being stirred by both old and new users. What I mean by this is the emergence of the whole "We are Anonymous — we do not forget, we do not forgive"-teenage-kind-of-edginess being fostered. As if Kiwifarms is some sort of collective of "Anonymous-hackers" or whatever. It's embarrassing beyond belief.
I've experienced more and more of these radical feminists and soyboys acting out, with the blessings of Joshua Connor Moon, and how the very edgy part of the website is starting to get out of control. As such, I would like to ask you guys if you know of any website besides Kiwifarms and this one that encourages at least somewhat politically incorrect discussion without being obtuse about it and without promoting radical feminist agendas?
Thank you for coming to my TED-talk.
I thought this OP might be more related to Null's catty and impulse bans and moderation at times. Specifically as it pertained to the Dark Syde Phil subforum.
Null locked it, temporarily nuked it and fired all its mods earlier in the year simply because he personally "didn't find DSP funny anymore". He also justified his actions by continuing to repeat like a leftist a debunked claim that a DSP subforum user had put the site in jeopardy by fucking with DSP's ISP then bragging about it,
Then when the mods understandbly protested, he banned one of them for setting up/being involved in a lifeboat DSP site for "insubordination" and "stealing revenue streams from KF".
Josh went on to moderate the DSP forum personally thereafter.
I don't even care about DSP, but the whole incident turned me off.
KF is always in danger internally because it's at the whim of emotional, petulant admin decisions from a maladjusted defiant sperg.
Josh is a moody bitch and should be considered as such, especially as the Beauty Parlor hoes continue to gain favor with him.
But the DSP situation is understandable in the fact that most people there act like DSP literally came to their house and shit in their mouth, where they organize gay ops and scream incoherently about him just being a dumb begger. You could see it all over the forum, where they would leave their board and still try to draw everything back to him and how he was somehow the worst person in existence. Even that ISP claim seemed pretty believable with how most people acted about him.
It was an extremely poorly handled situation, especially as Josh has no social skills and only knows how to double down when people question his authority, but the full picture makes both sides look like imbeciles instead of him alone being an asshole.
The DSP people are unhinged.
Seems like it's just human nature when it comes to gossip and drama, everyone's favourite target is whoever is just one step lower on the ladder than themselves.
So yeah anyone that fascinated with DSP has to be at least a little bit unstable too.
This reminds me of the saying:
"Every user on the Kiwifarms is a potential lolcow, only they don't have the courage to own up to it."
I very much believe this to be true. It probably applies to myself as well, damn it. The fact that Joshua and his moderators are as clueless to the nature of femoids as they are is indicative of their complete naivety and tomfoolery in regards to contemporary shenanigans between the genders. He was raised by a single mother, after all.
I admittedly don't follow DSP lore.
But Josh's impetuous response to the situation came off like a labile woman.
I watch his show and many times he's complained specifically about the DSP board.
DSP is a bit of a clownish and lowly man, but he pretty much outgrew his lolcowness and is now just a small streamer on his grind. Contrast that to trans pdfs and people like Ralph and there's no comparison. However, the DSP people are so furious that the guy never fell that they took what should be entertainment into hatred, taking things way too far and for way too long.
I've understood his points when he's made them.
Even if that's the case, why nuke a thread simply because you personally as its admin have grown passed it?
He blamed it on "gay ops causing trouble" that was debunked, but he doubled down, chimped out and banned everyone anyway.
I'm sorry for my late reply.
Indeed, I am somewhat conecntrated on Joshua's whims. Even though I understand your misgiving, I do understand the sacrifices Joshua has made in regards to the website, and the fact that it is his website at the end of the day.
I did not know about this "lifeboat" and "insubordination" thing though. I'm not surprised, to be honest, given my OP. Especially the thing about "stealing revenue streams from KF" is fucking infuriating beyond belief. Fuck that guy, and I do say that even though I know of all the sacrifices in his life that he's made. Trust is earned painfully, and lost swiftly.
As you, I don't care about Dark Side Phil. He's a "nobody-lolcow", as far as I'm concerned.
The Kiwifarms is indeed always in danger internally precisely because of the reasons you mention: the emotional baggage. That's my whole point in highlighting the sad "battle" between moids and femoids on the website. Joshua just doesn't give a shit, and while it is his website to do with as he wish, he's a fucking retard for progressing with it as he does. Emotional, petulant admin decisions from a maladjusted defiant sperg does not spell well for the future, indeed.