I honestly can't even tell anymore. What's to get excited about? Has he even said anything besides being for Israel and some token shit about immigration? I can't get much info from his nuthuggers, either, who can only act like SJWs about woke shit and trannies in women's sports. The entire Trump movement just seems totally neutered from what it was in 2016
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Can't lie friend. That sounds like you guys overhyped yourself back in 2016 and lost sight of the truth of what he was. He was always the lesser of two evils because he was still a literal Leftist from the 90s who just got thrown Right with the shifting of the Overton Window.
Our voting system is literally "Winner takes all" with a two party domination. It will always be lesser of two evils every single time until Jesus himself comes back to run.
The best thing you could ever hope with Trump, which he has succeeded at massively, is that he inspires people to not be afraid to be openly Right Wing anymore (which had been the case for the last two decades prior) and hope that more legitimately Right Wing politicians start rising up by showing they can win and people want them.
2016 sure, but I've been like this with him for a while. Some people here are still talking about him like he's going to do all kinds of great things, and there is no way anyone could be anything less than ecstatic to vote for him again.
I think he is legitimately going to struggle to win this election. His support base has slowly dwindled in numbers and enthusiasm as the reality of what he actually is has set in. I still want him to win for sure because he is indeed the lesser evil, and I think a Trump victory demystifies politics more than a defeat.
I'm seeing the opposite. While he has less loud and pushy voters, he has gained considerably in the more milquetoast and normie types. So the people who were going to vote for him anyway are less excited, the numbers who don't go to rallies period and just exist are talking about him more and more positively. Likely as a response to how bad Biden/Harris have done and the burnout from 8+ years of hearing he is Satan and it not coming true.
I'm also seeing the opposite of this. Positive reception to him here is pretty tame, while every other week we have these "TRUMP SUPPORTS JEWS TRUMPSTEIN DONALDBERG" threads trying....do something.
Its why I wrote my original comment. People here are constantly trying to tear him down, validly or not, but not actually providing any alternative that isn't legions worse.
These people are fickle though. Trump pulled a lot of them in 2016, too, but had a much better core support group.
They just blew a gasket over Kyle Rittenhouse and Joe Rogan not endorsing him. There is still a core, but they look insecure, doing shit like that.
This was definitely true when Biden was the candidate, but I think the Trump campaign isn't getting the problems with Biden to stick to Harris effectively enough. He needs to be effective at that in the debate.
Check here. It's full of people who can't imagine him losing support.
It's trying to get him to put America before Israel. There's virtually no chance that it will work, but if he wins and doesn't measure up, we'll at least have an established history to explain why. That's what I meant by demystifying.
They are, which is why he is so forceful on debating Harris and getting his name in front of her every time she speaks. That fickleness is what will keep such a shit tactic working regardless of policy.
What I'm seeing there is pretty tepid. More on not trusting polls period rather than fully screeching that he can't lose. Which is a valid distrust regardless of how.
Which is valid, but the alternative isn't Kamala "6 gorillion more" Harris, its Kamala who is going to do the same thing but also start a war in the Middle East over it too.
He isn't worth a whole lot, but he is better than the net negative his competition has. Which makes these regular anti posts feel a lot more like a Shill Campaign to sow Division instead of a legitimate concern about him, especially as (as I've broken record'd on) they don't acknowledge that the flip side against him is worst in every single regard.
You're talking to one of the same conpro fags you mention trying to demoralize with all the reee jooos bullshit. He's not a right wing Trump supporter that has been demoralized, he's a goon putting on a false face to try to shift perception - to forum slide.
The conpro fags are just the typical crypto leftists who want to subvert or destroy right wing movements.
I've been talking to Arch around here for a long time as far as my memory goes, regardless of his behavior elsewhere.
I'm confident in my stances and principles regardless. Someone bringing forth reasonable discussion like that does nothing but make me feel better about my position, the demoralization is far more prominent in people screeching in paranoia about Jews and Stormfags each ruining the place and making me not even want to bother engaging.