The problems caused by invaders being here are caused by invaders being here, obviously. However, we can’t neglect the fact that invaders are here only because the gates of Toledo have been swung wide open for them. Whatever motivates that pattern must be unearthed and revealed in its totality (the root cause), otherwise we just treat the symptoms, blindly (aka “you’ve got a cold? let’s get you intubated and on a respirator”)
And for that, you'd rather scapegoat a small group rather than acknowledge the reality that the entire Western ruling class consists of traitors.
Wrong, I acknowledge the latter and make the further observation that this “Western” “ruling class” is disproportionately made up of that small group. This reality demands a genuine, good faith explanation beyond “we’re smarter than you, goy” - or the equivalent delivered by a designated “shabbos” spokesgoy. Personally, I believe that this “small group” you mention, and accuse me of blaming, is in fact more of a “sacrificial goat” than the Evil Masterminds. BUT!!! That explanation of mine cannot even be broached while the veil of ignorance surrounds the initial point of disproportionate and currently (within the Overton Window) inexplicable domination of this “ruling class”.
People with an undying hatred for a particular group are hardly impartial observers trying to 'unearth motivations'.
Agreed, unfortunately these populations are growing, on both sides of all relavent polarities. One could say something like “misery loves company”, to diagnose the symptom, but what is the cause of the initial illness? Instead of addressing valid concerns, the “ruling class” plays dumb, and always fans the flames. Clearly they aren’t dumb, so what’s going on? Are we being (b)led to another ”burnt offering”?
Agreed. But the cause is not 'da Joooz are evil'.
True, but one must consider the possibility that the talmud is evil, and that the people responsible for its evil had and have a larger role in “world jewry”/da joooz than is evident on the surface.
I acknowledge the latter and make the further observation that this “Western” “ruling class” is disproportionately made up of that small group.
The ultraright version of: the Western world is controlled by WHITE MEN.
This reality demands a genuine, good faith explanation beyond “we’re smarter than you, goy”
Now let's be real, are all the people here who say "the Holocaust wasn't real but it should have been" interested in a good faith explanation?
Regardless, you made the same mistake as the woke in assuming that the default situation is equality. No, it is inequality. That is what is universal. That is why the Chinese in Malaysia outperform Malays massively, despite being discriminated against.
That explanation of mine cannot even be broached while the veil of ignorance surrounds the initial point of disproportionate and currently (within the Overton Window) inexplicable domination of this “ruling class”.
Unexplained to you, or others, is not quite the same as being 'inexplicable'. And having a disproportionate presence is not the same as 'dominating' the ruling class.
Instead of addressing valid concerns, the “ruling class” plays dumb, and always fans the flames. Clearly they aren’t dumb,
They're not dumb at advancing their own interests, but unfortunately, they don't care about the interests about the countries they wreck at all. If holders of capital say to let in many millions of immigrants, they will, because those holders are in a position to reward them.
The ultraright version of: the Western world is controlled by WHITE MEN.
This doesn’t even make sense, they’re waging a war against white men…the ruling class, even by your definition, hates white men. How tf do you explain that if they are only white men with no outside coordinated and malicious influences on their perspectives?
Now let's be real, are all the people here who say "the Holocaust wasn't real but it should have been" interested in a good faith explanation?
Not to a large extent, but if one were achieved, I think far far more than you give credit for would be open to it. However that number shrinks and shrinks as the charade goes on and polarization continues. We are currently at a precipice that has been approached by our ancestors (both) many times but never with success and always with mass needless suffering. Whatever that “burnt offering” was, precisely, it has been turned into a cudgel of the charade. Just like I said about the subject in general, that subject in specific cannot be wholistically addressed until the veil of ignorance is ripped away.
Unexplained to you, or others, is not quite the same as being 'inexplicable'.
Go ahead and explain it then. Your argument is dead on arrival because they’ve all been tried and found wanting. It requires stepping outside of the Overton window.
Regardless, you made the same mistake as the woke in assuming that the default situation is equality. No, it is inequality. That is what is universal. That is why the Chinese in Malaysia outperform Malays massively, despite being discriminated against.
So your good faith explanation is just, “they’re smarter than you, goy”? Pathetic.
If holders of capital say to let in many millions of immigrants, they will, because those holders are in a position to reward them.
“Holders of capital” golly that’s ironic. Is there anything in common about these holders of capital and where their anti-human beliefs and ideologies come from? Anything at all you can think of?
Besides, your simplistic reduction again neglects vital context - the only reason the ruling elite was able to get away with “replacement migration” was because of the reality that the local population had ceased to propagate itself at “economically necessary” rates. That subject alone requires an in depth analysis before you ever step foot near “and so it’s the fault of rich white people who wanted to pay mexicans to pick all the fruit consumed by Americans, grown inside of America. “Ultimately” serves no one but ignorance and the Father of Lies in these conversations, imo
The problems caused by invaders being here are caused by invaders being here, obviously. However, we can’t neglect the fact that invaders are here only because the gates of Toledo have been swung wide open for them. Whatever motivates that pattern must be unearthed and revealed in its totality (the root cause), otherwise we just treat the symptoms, blindly (aka “you’ve got a cold? let’s get you intubated and on a respirator”)
And for that, you'd rather scapegoat a small group rather than acknowledge the reality that the entire Western ruling class consists of traitors.
People with an undying hatred for a particular group are hardly impartial observers trying to 'unearth motivations'.
Agreed. But the cause is not 'da Joooz are evil'.
Wrong, I acknowledge the latter and make the further observation that this “Western” “ruling class” is disproportionately made up of that small group. This reality demands a genuine, good faith explanation beyond “we’re smarter than you, goy” - or the equivalent delivered by a designated “shabbos” spokesgoy. Personally, I believe that this “small group” you mention, and accuse me of blaming, is in fact more of a “sacrificial goat” than the Evil Masterminds. BUT!!! That explanation of mine cannot even be broached while the veil of ignorance surrounds the initial point of disproportionate and currently (within the Overton Window) inexplicable domination of this “ruling class”.
Agreed, unfortunately these populations are growing, on both sides of all relavent polarities. One could say something like “misery loves company”, to diagnose the symptom, but what is the cause of the initial illness? Instead of addressing valid concerns, the “ruling class” plays dumb, and always fans the flames. Clearly they aren’t dumb, so what’s going on? Are we being (b)led to another ”burnt offering”?
True, but one must consider the possibility that the talmud is evil, and that the people responsible for its evil had and have a larger role in “world jewry”/da joooz than is evident on the surface.
The ultraright version of: the Western world is controlled by WHITE MEN.
Now let's be real, are all the people here who say "the Holocaust wasn't real but it should have been" interested in a good faith explanation?
Regardless, you made the same mistake as the woke in assuming that the default situation is equality. No, it is inequality. That is what is universal. That is why the Chinese in Malaysia outperform Malays massively, despite being discriminated against.
Unexplained to you, or others, is not quite the same as being 'inexplicable'. And having a disproportionate presence is not the same as 'dominating' the ruling class.
They're not dumb at advancing their own interests, but unfortunately, they don't care about the interests about the countries they wreck at all. If holders of capital say to let in many millions of immigrants, they will, because those holders are in a position to reward them.
This doesn’t even make sense, they’re waging a war against white men…the ruling class, even by your definition, hates white men. How tf do you explain that if they are only white men with no outside coordinated and malicious influences on their perspectives?
Not to a large extent, but if one were achieved, I think far far more than you give credit for would be open to it. However that number shrinks and shrinks as the charade goes on and polarization continues. We are currently at a precipice that has been approached by our ancestors (both) many times but never with success and always with mass needless suffering. Whatever that “burnt offering” was, precisely, it has been turned into a cudgel of the charade. Just like I said about the subject in general, that subject in specific cannot be wholistically addressed until the veil of ignorance is ripped away.
Go ahead and explain it then. Your argument is dead on arrival because they’ve all been tried and found wanting. It requires stepping outside of the Overton window.
So your good faith explanation is just, “they’re smarter than you, goy”? Pathetic.
“Holders of capital” golly that’s ironic. Is there anything in common about these holders of capital and where their anti-human beliefs and ideologies come from? Anything at all you can think of?
Besides, your simplistic reduction again neglects vital context - the only reason the ruling elite was able to get away with “replacement migration” was because of the reality that the local population had ceased to propagate itself at “economically necessary” rates. That subject alone requires an in depth analysis before you ever step foot near “and so it’s the fault of rich white people who wanted to pay mexicans to pick all the fruit consumed by Americans, grown inside of America. “Ultimately” serves no one but ignorance and the Father of Lies in these conversations, imo