There's plenty of anger here, but it's impotent anger. He sounds like a broken man who has lost the will to fight (but not the will to bitch about it). We have known (or at least I have known) about this gender stuff for 20 years now.
He's not wrong, but he's being a little bit too hyperbolic to really get the normies' attention.
And the real problem is the feminine imperative which is powered by emotion and feeling and has the full weight of the DNC (and most of the Federal government) behind it. It's led to:
-Kids getting mutilated at the altar of Gender for virtue signaling points
-Women and children being sold into sex slavery for virtue signaling points on the border
-Failing schools because schools are more concerned with activism and virtue signaling points than education.
-Speech needs to be censored because security is more important than liberty (feminine imperative)
It's the same rot in all areas. Gender shit is bad, but everything is bad. Bad bad bad all the way down, and it's largely because women have attached legitimate government power to their histrionic whims.
Sorry if that makes me sound like Imp, but it's maybe the core part of his thesis that's correct. I don't know what we do about it.
But these things will continue to happen wherever women's interests intersect with government power.
You're just talking about liberalism and labeling it "the feminine imperative."
Sorry if that makes me sound like Imp, but it's maybe the core part of his thesis that's correct. I
You are actively contradicting TheImp. It seems like almost no one actually reads the bullshit he says, least of all the people who talk about how right he is.
I've talked with Imp a lot and have spent a lot of time in this forum saying "Imp isn't necessarily wrong, but his tact sucks."
That was just the first time I have ever posted saying "yes it probably is women's fault." You said that it isn't feminism but it is liberalism... I say "what is the difference?"
When you have a 20, 30, or even 40 point difference in polling trends between single unmarried childless women, then that becomes the bedrock of the party.
The Democrat Party has become the party of histrionic cat ladies and academics who don't operate within a fact-based world. The liberal agenda is the feminist agenda.
I truly don't know how you reverse this trend without a collapse so spectacular that these powerful feminist voices have truly nothing to offer and start to scurry to whatever perceived "safety" they can find.
TheImp characterizes women as inherently evil schemers always plotting the moid genocide in every action they take (except for promoting Zionism for "some" reason). His view is that they are ruthless, cruel, cunning, killing machines. Yours is that they are overly emotional and whimsical. These aren't the same.
I think Peterson is just broken at this point.
There's plenty of anger here, but it's impotent anger. He sounds like a broken man who has lost the will to fight (but not the will to bitch about it). We have known (or at least I have known) about this gender stuff for 20 years now.
He's not wrong, but he's being a little bit too hyperbolic to really get the normies' attention.
And the real problem is the feminine imperative which is powered by emotion and feeling and has the full weight of the DNC (and most of the Federal government) behind it. It's led to:
-Kids getting mutilated at the altar of Gender for virtue signaling points
-Women and children being sold into sex slavery for virtue signaling points on the border
-Failing schools because schools are more concerned with activism and virtue signaling points than education.
-Speech needs to be censored because security is more important than liberty (feminine imperative)
It's the same rot in all areas. Gender shit is bad, but everything is bad. Bad bad bad all the way down, and it's largely because women have attached legitimate government power to their histrionic whims.
Sorry if that makes me sound like Imp, but it's maybe the core part of his thesis that's correct. I don't know what we do about it.
But these things will continue to happen wherever women's interests intersect with government power.
You're just talking about liberalism and labeling it "the feminine imperative."
You are actively contradicting TheImp. It seems like almost no one actually reads the bullshit he says, least of all the people who talk about how right he is.
I've talked with Imp a lot and have spent a lot of time in this forum saying "Imp isn't necessarily wrong, but his tact sucks."
That was just the first time I have ever posted saying "yes it probably is women's fault." You said that it isn't feminism but it is liberalism... I say "what is the difference?"
When you have a 20, 30, or even 40 point difference in polling trends between single unmarried childless women, then that becomes the bedrock of the party.
The Democrat Party has become the party of histrionic cat ladies and academics who don't operate within a fact-based world. The liberal agenda is the feminist agenda.
I truly don't know how you reverse this trend without a collapse so spectacular that these powerful feminist voices have truly nothing to offer and start to scurry to whatever perceived "safety" they can find.
Republicans are liberals.
TheImp characterizes women as inherently evil schemers always plotting the moid genocide in every action they take (except for promoting Zionism for "some" reason). His view is that they are ruthless, cruel, cunning, killing machines. Yours is that they are overly emotional and whimsical. These aren't the same.
That's true enough.
But we're saying the same thing. His is a pessimistic view, mine is more optimistic.
The purpose of a system is what it does. And what the liberal system does is dogshit.