But it sounds like you didn’t watch the video? We’re talking rapid, catastrophic shifts in climate/solar energy/plate tectonics, exactly like Toba and many others which follow this cyclical pattern. Also, part of the idea being that these catastrophes weren’t hitting people limited to campfires and spears, but that each time one of these events occur, civilization is being reset to the stone ages. It’s just illogical to think that anatomically modern humans decided to invent civilization only once, 6,000 years ago, when we find evidence we’ve been around for going on atleast 300,000 years
dude we are totally about to experience the sun going out and the tectonic plates falling sideways into the ocean (the biggest problem the ground falling sideways will cause is the ocean sloshing, apparently)
This is even dumber than "the gay kind" because it's shit that we have even less data to predict.
We can correct a lot of the damage through geo engineering, massive projects designed to directly affect the environment. You see versions of this in sci fi and games like Deus Ex Human Revolution.
Earth is too valuable a commodity to just let go as even if we go to the stars, having a planet that can sustained OUR life will always be needed as a template for terraforming new planets.
That’s assuming the “gradualist” framework is correct, but I think the work of people like Carlson, Schoch, and the rest pretty well prove that we need to be operating from a “catastrophist” point of view. If these shifts are catastrophic instead of gradual then our ability to mitigate their effects are going to be fundamentally more limited.
But I agree with your point that earth isn’t some eggshell to be abandoned. Did you watch the follow up or are you just basing that on my one sentence about a future in the stars? I think his follow up adds a lot of important context to what I was meaning there
Didn't watch the follow up but that's been a long held belief of mine that we need to HEAVILY invest in space.....DECADES ago but start now too!
Just for resources alone, like you know something we're short on Earth of? Helium. That's something we use to make fibre optic cables.
There is an asteroid located in the belt that is MAJORITY Helium, that could not just fill our requirements but oversupply us. The first person to do space mining basically has Earth's economy by the balls because you can oversupply EVERYTHING by mining the right one of those asteroids and tank an economy in seconds if you felt like it.
How do you think this can be made into a mainstream issue? It seems like practically no one with power or a voice is saying these things except maybe Musk and (with far less reach) a couple niche podcasts
There's a reason it's suppressed other than the cost and effort to do it: control.
A LOT of the mechanisms of control on this planet work on the principle of limited resources, space travel completely nullifies that. The only things I can think of that could retain their authority in a space age is ironically religion and we see how much the western powers have worked to undermine that.
Graphenium has been around for quite a while here. That being said...
Graph, you can't just start throwing slurs around and telling people that they should kill themselves just because they disagree with you. Calm down. Do not start a flame war.
I think he’s spot on in the follow up. Humanity’s future, should we choose to live up to it, is in the stars. But how do we start inhabiting that reality?
What are you going to eat up there? the Laurentide ice sheet extended as far south as St. Louis. You won't be able to grow corps, it will be too cold. The hunting will move south.
So...the climate catastrophe will be so severe that the ice sheet extends back to St. Louis in this guys lifetime....but... and I’m quoting you in this very thread
Climate change is not going to end civilization.
Just civilization north of the Mason-Dixon I suppose, is that right you mongoloid?
Shill? I'm not the one coming into places where he is unwelcome pushing this magical thinking bullshit. Go back to your sewer in Conspiracies or Manna.
Good cave systems there? If it ends up being related to a pole shift or flip as some theorize, I see the biblically promised “melting of the elements in fervent heat” being more and more likely (aka firestorms covering the face of the earth). What’s it look like in your mind?
76,000 years ago the Mount Toba supervolcano killed all humans except between 5000-10000 survivors.
If we can survive a sudden cataclysm using campfires, pointy sticks and furs I think we can survive a very slow change in climate nowadays.
I explicitly said it’s not the gay kind!
But it sounds like you didn’t watch the video? We’re talking rapid, catastrophic shifts in climate/solar energy/plate tectonics, exactly like Toba and many others which follow this cyclical pattern. Also, part of the idea being that these catastrophes weren’t hitting people limited to campfires and spears, but that each time one of these events occur, civilization is being reset to the stone ages. It’s just illogical to think that anatomically modern humans decided to invent civilization only once, 6,000 years ago, when we find evidence we’ve been around for going on atleast 300,000 years
https://media1.tenor.com/m/Ju0t6FgXWjQAAAAC/hand-sign-kurt-russell.gif
Climate change is not going to end civilization. This shit is as stupid as your bugman fire magic videos.
This is even dumber than "the gay kind" because it's shit that we have even less data to predict.
Except it happens every 6,000 years and the last time it happened was 6,000 years ago...
Blow it out your ass faggot!
We can correct a lot of the damage through geo engineering, massive projects designed to directly affect the environment. You see versions of this in sci fi and games like Deus Ex Human Revolution.
Earth is too valuable a commodity to just let go as even if we go to the stars, having a planet that can sustained OUR life will always be needed as a template for terraforming new planets.
That’s assuming the “gradualist” framework is correct, but I think the work of people like Carlson, Schoch, and the rest pretty well prove that we need to be operating from a “catastrophist” point of view. If these shifts are catastrophic instead of gradual then our ability to mitigate their effects are going to be fundamentally more limited.
But I agree with your point that earth isn’t some eggshell to be abandoned. Did you watch the follow up or are you just basing that on my one sentence about a future in the stars? I think his follow up adds a lot of important context to what I was meaning there
Didn't watch the follow up but that's been a long held belief of mine that we need to HEAVILY invest in space.....DECADES ago but start now too!
Just for resources alone, like you know something we're short on Earth of? Helium. That's something we use to make fibre optic cables.
There is an asteroid located in the belt that is MAJORITY Helium, that could not just fill our requirements but oversupply us. The first person to do space mining basically has Earth's economy by the balls because you can oversupply EVERYTHING by mining the right one of those asteroids and tank an economy in seconds if you felt like it.
How do you think this can be made into a mainstream issue? It seems like practically no one with power or a voice is saying these things except maybe Musk and (with far less reach) a couple niche podcasts
There's a reason it's suppressed other than the cost and effort to do it: control.
A LOT of the mechanisms of control on this planet work on the principle of limited resources, space travel completely nullifies that. The only things I can think of that could retain their authority in a space age is ironically religion and we see how much the western powers have worked to undermine that.
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Graphenium has been around for quite a while here. That being said...
Graph, you can't just start throwing slurs around and telling people that they should kill themselves just because they disagree with you. Calm down. Do not start a flame war.
Hey now I explicitly said I wasnt telling him to kill himself, nor did I start anything there. Which faggot shill reported it?
Good 10m follow up video on solutions:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v-c3nR3TwGE&pp=ygUbcmFuZGFsbCBjYXJsc29uIGFmdGVyIHNrb29s
Longer 2h lecture of which this is the ending:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R7oyZGW99os&pp=ygUbcmFuZGFsbCBjYXJsc29uIGFmdGVyIHNrb29s
I think he’s spot on in the follow up. Humanity’s future, should we choose to live up to it, is in the stars. But how do we start inhabiting that reality?
What are you going to eat up there? the Laurentide ice sheet extended as far south as St. Louis. You won't be able to grow corps, it will be too cold. The hunting will move south.
So...the climate catastrophe will be so severe that the ice sheet extends back to St. Louis in this guys lifetime....but... and I’m quoting you in this very thread
Just civilization north of the Mason-Dixon I suppose, is that right you mongoloid?
First you'd have to show that there IS civilization north of the Mason-Dixon line.
That’s all you can muster? Fuck off shill.
Shill? I'm not the one coming into places where he is unwelcome pushing this magical thinking bullshit. Go back to your sewer in Conspiracies or Manna.
Yeah you’re a shill, you follow me around downvoting me and shitting up my threads because you don’t like a post I made 3 years ago on another forum.
I’d tell you to kill yourself if I thought you were capable of accomplishing anything
You come into my forum and claim I am following you. Top kek.
Good cave systems there? If it ends up being related to a pole shift or flip as some theorize, I see the biblically promised “melting of the elements in fervent heat” being more and more likely (aka firestorms covering the face of the earth). What’s it look like in your mind?
You are actually retarded.
What warning signs are you looking for?