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Another Day, Another single mom killing her kids (archive.is)
posted 2 years ago by Ahaus667 2 years ago by Ahaus667 +32 / -0
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– when_we_win_remember 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

I know it's orthodoxy here, and I believe there's a core of truth to it, but is that really true?

Every case I've seen resulted in some sort of shared custody arrangement, unless one parent was a deadbeat. HOWEVER. I have seen both parents try to get the other disowned or whatever you call it unfairly. So, fight, yes. It's a fight. "Near impossible odds". Nah, the odds of getting some custody are in your favor.

HOWEVER, courts do go out of their way to bankrupt men with child support even when they're the half or primary caregiver. Which then often ends up with them in a position not be able to maintain a nice home, and then Mom says they will be better off in the house she kept.

I've even seen men forced to pay for arbitrary women's lawyer's fees. The court makes no provision for a lawyer for the man, but if a woman claims she can't afford one, they do something.

That is the core of truth I think. The more money you have, the more likely you are to be able to get a fair deal. And of course that's relative money vs Mom too. She can pay more lawyers, etc, in extreme cases.

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– Ahaus667 [S] 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Shared custody isn’t quite the victory most think it is. Women by default are given primary custody, this is why women can take the child and move out of state with little to no recourse on the father’s end. There’s also the very real financial burden placed solely on men who have to pay legal fees for both parties in most cases. Partial custody, like you said, also doesn’t lower or eliminate child care expenses, and makes the burden, once again, entirely on the male (for example, if the father pays for their kids haircut and clothing even though it is supposed to be paid for by child support, he can not write it off or lower payment, instead he would have to appeal to lower child support which involves more expenses and will be denied almost every time. If the man loses his job he will still have to pay the same until the courts deem otherwise. On and on and on.)

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– when_we_win_remember 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Antonio said, referencing someone else

Folks defending the system claim that most men don't even ask for custody,

This does not match my experience. I think every father I know had at least partial custody at some point. I know people who have been through drug battles (or just failed a drug test...) and stuff and have lost their custody.

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– BlueHellScapeRefugee 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

for example, if the father pays for their kids haircut and clothing even though it is supposed to be paid for by child support, he can not write it off or lower payment, instead he would have to appeal to lower child support which involves more expenses and will be denied almost every time

This is why some men pay the child support and not a dime more. If the whore begs for more money tell her to use free money she gets every month instead of blowing it on shit. So many problems could be solved the men had control over how mommy support is spent.

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– Ahaus667 [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

The problem with that is women will do that and then use it to poison perception of the dad when he refuses. Women will use kids as weapons almost every time.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Interesting. This is very far from my personal experience as a European. I know people who are divorced but not the dragged-out court fights. Then again, marriage is in terminal decline here, so no wonder.

The more money you have, the more likely you are to be able to get a fair deal.

Same for criminal court, unless your name is Trump of course.

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– when_we_win_remember 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Sticking to family court, everything drags out in the US if you have the money to keep funding it. So if you get two people who have different things and can afford lawyers, it goes on. It never really ends until the children are grown. Even if some arrangement is made, a party can go back to court to ask for a change.

I am not an expert on this, and I've never been divorced. I just know people from various things, including family.

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